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re: M1 Abrams and Bradleys Going to Ukraine
Posted on 1/25/23 at 7:36 am to aTmTexas Dillo
Posted on 1/25/23 at 7:36 am to aTmTexas Dillo
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They pop us with these and some of us will pop them back. That's comforting. They won't beat us.
WTH?
Yeah, we might fire back (hard to say with our broken military), but nobody wins when these start going off. Well, unless we don't fire back, then Russia and China kinda win, but the world is jacked up for a while.
I don't understand the lack of fear of nukes so many have today. Were we just smarter or better informed in the post WWII til 2010 era? Have people gotten incredibly dumber?
Why? Because of the internet, post apocalypse movies, gaming? Most of these fools today, if they survive the blast, would likely kill themselves because they suddenly don't have their phones to surf the net, chat and socialize.
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Posted on 1/25/23 at 7:48 am to jp4lsu
M1 s going to Ukraine ?
This is a huge mistake.
This is a huge mistake.
This is a huge mistake.
And this will not end well.
This will result in WW3 and we will have to commit our troops to that theater.
We can defeat the Bear but that war will take 10 years and there will be thousands of casualties.
We may even lose a few cities here in the US.
Where the Hell is Blinken ?
Why is No One trying to broker a peace deal ?
When diplomacy fails War will result.
You have been told.
This is a huge mistake.
This is a huge mistake.
This is a huge mistake.
And this will not end well.
This will result in WW3 and we will have to commit our troops to that theater.
We can defeat the Bear but that war will take 10 years and there will be thousands of casualties.
We may even lose a few cities here in the US.
Where the Hell is Blinken ?
Why is No One trying to broker a peace deal ?
When diplomacy fails War will result.
You have been told.
Posted on 1/25/23 at 8:16 am to jp4lsu
Could be going to California for NTC training that’s happening next month. But who knows
Posted on 1/25/23 at 8:16 am to GatorH8r
Abrams use high grade fuel that Ukraine doesn't have. The Leopards use diesel. We were trying to tell the German that the Abrams wasn't a good fit for Ukraine.
Logistics is why the Abrams works for us and won't for Ukraine.
Logistics is why the Abrams works for us and won't for Ukraine.
Posted on 1/25/23 at 8:17 am to Big Gorilla
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M1 Abrams
I approve sending Stacey to Ukraine
Posted on 1/25/23 at 8:18 am to GatorH8r
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Supposedly the US tanks are very fuel inefficient per the Colonel he interviews.
Oh well we can either send them more money for gas or some of our strategic crude. NBD.
Posted on 1/25/23 at 8:21 am to NPComb
Would need to send huge amount of support personnel. M1 has a turbine engine, seriously doubt they have the resources (parts,personnel, fuel etc) to take care of them.
Posted on 1/25/23 at 8:22 am to Powerman
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Yeah that's the more troublesome part if true
Not really. Germans are hesitant to commit without the US leading the way.
Posted on 1/25/23 at 8:23 am to aTmTexas Dillo
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The USA is the only country that can manage this situation.
Why? Why can't Europe manage this situation?
Posted on 1/25/23 at 8:24 am to NPComb
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Crazy. Ukraine had over 2500 tanks before the war started. Where did they go?
If the above is true …this war is going to get bigger quick. How many tanks are we sending?
Posted on 1/25/23 at 8:24 am to Lynxrufus2012
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Abrams use high grade fuel that Ukraine doesn't have.
The M1 engine is a multifuel engine that can run on diesel...
Posted on 1/25/23 at 8:26 am to jp4lsu
They are depleting our military intentionally!
Posted on 1/25/23 at 8:27 am to jp4lsu
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Near my house are railroad tracks that travel NW (287 hwy) into the panhandle of Texas and down to south Texas. I see lots of coal, cargo containers, etc most of the time. Coming home after dark on Sunday, there was train sitting on the tracks, with about 3/4 to 1 mile of M1 Abrams and Bradley tro
I was told a week or two ago when it was announced the US was sending Bradleys to Ukraine the Russians would not view that announcement as escalating the conflict........maybe the Russians will view the addition of Patriot missiles, Strykers, and M1 Abram tanks to Ukraine as an escalation? All I can say with certainty is it's not too late to invest in those MIC stocks and ETFs.
Posted on 1/25/23 at 8:30 am to TigerFanatic99
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Why? Why can't Europe manage this situation?
Because we provide military welfare for the West so they can have their domestic policies that Americans seem to love.
We do it so we can bully everyone else, they accept it willingly because its less expensive for them.
Posted on 1/25/23 at 8:33 am to Powerman
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The Germans approved sending their tanks to Ukraine
Does Germany have enough Leopards to spare them to Ukraine?
Posted on 1/25/23 at 8:34 am to Indefatigable
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Does Germany have enough Leopards to spare them to Ukraine?
My understanding was Poland was sending their Leopards to Ukraine and would get theirs replaced, by the U.S., I am certain...
Germany originally gave the Leopards to Poland with an agreement that Poland could not give them to anyone else without Germany's approval...
Posted on 1/25/23 at 8:40 am to jp4lsu
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Coming home after dark on Sunday, there was train sitting on the tracks, with about 3/4 to 1 mile of M1 Abrams and Bradley troop carriers. I thought to myself, this better not be going to Ukraine.
Grab me a M1.
TIA
Posted on 1/25/23 at 8:47 am to POTUS2024
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Abrams uses a gas turbine engine originally designed for use in helicopters. I'm skeptical about Ukraine having the logistics capability to keep them fueled.
They're also very labor-intensive to maintain. Even if they knew how to operate them, there's no way that Ukraine can keep them operational without our help.
Posted on 1/25/23 at 9:24 am to jp4lsu
quote:Why didn't you follow them?
Near my house are railroad tracks that travel NW (287 hwy) into the panhandle of Texas and down to south Texas. I see lots of coal, cargo containers, etc most of the time.
Coming home after dark on Sunday, there was train sitting on the tracks, with about 3/4 to 1 mile of M1 Abrams and Bradley troop carriers. I thought to myself, this better not be going to Ukraine.
Supposedly the Pentagon says they would rather Leopard tanks be sent to Ukraine.
Posted on 1/25/23 at 9:37 am to The Maj
But typically JP-8 for best performance.
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