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re: Man receives $9,000 bill for ER visit

Posted on 8/11/14 at 2:16 pm to
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
50642 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 2:16 pm to
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some would have cost him nil or close to it


Like the one he chose?

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United Healthcare ended up paying $6,640 on the bill. After the story hit the news, the hospital wrote off Hanusz-Rajkowski’s portion of the bill.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73687 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 2:19 pm to
So the bill was only 2.3k?

This story should blow over, then.
Posted by igoringa
South Mississippi
Member since Jun 2007
12294 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 2:22 pm to
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Like the one he chose?

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United Healthcare ended up paying $6,640 on the bill. After the story hit the news, the hospital wrote off Hanusz-Rajkowski’s portion of the bill.


Yes, clearly his master plan. He consciously thought about this method being cost free as he knew before entering a media uproar would allow him to be a deadbeat. I completely understand

The comedy of this is, unlike some arguments that can be made in the healthcare space where at certain times you will not have a choice in service provider - this moron did. He was ignorant and lazy and then cried like a deadbeat after seeking out the service. How anyone can have remorse for that is beyond me. Further, he reaffirmed the appropriateness of their pricing. If someone is willing to voluntarily seek it out and pay it - sounds pretty silly to suggest they are out of whack. Now perhaps those that think it is out of whack could not use it and the problem would take care of itself. But instead, they will remain ignorant and then feign outrage when their ignorance leads them to reality.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
84260 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 2:24 pm to
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After the story hit the news, the hospital wrote off Hanusz-Rajkowski’s portion of the bill.


fricking reward stupidity Jackass should have to pay whatever his portion should have been. Again, this is the type of person that is teaching America's youth.

Nothing wrong at all with UHC ponying up what they "Would" have paid had there been an agreement in place, although that is still fricking outrageous for the treatment he got.
Posted by igoringa
South Mississippi
Member since Jun 2007
12294 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 2:24 pm to
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This story should blow over, then.


I am still not sure how an idiot misusing emergency care and then not liking the bill that is solely a direct result of him being an idiot is a story to begin with.

If every time someone thought someone else overcharged for a voluntary service was newsworthy, there would be millions of stories.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
127108 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 2:25 pm to
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Should utility companies be able to charge thousands of dollars in late fees if you are two days late with a payment?


Exceptionally poorly contstructed argument. Not even close to what actually occurred. Because he was lazy he chose a premium service for a minor issue. And he was charged (but did not pay) a premium price.
This post was edited on 8/11/14 at 2:29 pm
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
84260 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 2:27 pm to
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And he paid a premium price.


According to the followup link, he didn't pay shite...

UHC picked up their portion, even though technically they didn't have to and the hospital waved his co-pay
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
127108 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 2:28 pm to
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According to the followup link, he didn't pay...


Good point. Need to change my post to say he was "charged" a premium price.

BRB
Posted by novabill
Crossville, TN
Member since Sep 2005
10766 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 2:36 pm to
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The guy was a dumbass for going to the ER for that


No one is arguing against that point. You are right. Feel Better?

Posted by JEAUXBLEAUX
Bayonne, NJ
Member since May 2006
55375 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 2:41 pm to
Since Care Point took over their rates are nut. Place is four blocks from me. My kids were born there. The quality of care is good and the ER services excellent. We took my 86 year old mother in law there when she fell last month.

Must say I am disappointed no one called me out re Bayonne.
Posted by novabill
Crossville, TN
Member since Sep 2005
10766 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 2:41 pm to
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Should utility companies be able to charge thousands of dollars in late fees if you are two days late with a payment?


They should be able to charge eleventybillion dollars because you made a bad call to be late.

There is no reason to ever criticize a business for over charging someone.

Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
33284 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 10:45 pm to
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I had a kidney stone last year and my entire bill was less than $2000 - and that includes an inital trip to an urgent care center who told me that I had to go to the ER after doing a bunch of tests. 
Exact same thing happened to me in June. Was working out of town and had a kidney stone on a Saturday evening. Went to an urgent care clinic and the PA sent me to the ER for a CT scan. Had a CT scan, an IV (not sure why) and a pain killer. Spent about 2 hours there. The bill was $10,940.
This post was edited on 8/11/14 at 10:51 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73687 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 10:58 pm to
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The bill was $10,940.
How much did you pay?
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
33284 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 11:05 pm to
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How much did you pay? 
Nothing yet. Just recently got the statement from United Healthcare. Haven't gotten the bill from the hospital yet. I'll probably have to pay a grand or so. I think UH paid them about $7K if I remember correctly. I'm still out of state and only briefly looked at the statement before I left a couple weeks ago.
This post was edited on 8/11/14 at 11:08 pm
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37240 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 11:06 pm to
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According to the followup link, he didn't pay shite...

UHC picked up their portion, even though technically they didn't have to and the hospital waved his co-pay
By law insurers have to pay the charges from an ER. That is why the hospital is overcharging to begin with.

I know that the guy wasn't smart about his care, but I don't know of any other situation where someone can be charged so much without being told the costs ahead of time. Lawyers can rack up bills but it is their duty to inform you of any potential costs. I can't see why a hospital shouldn't be forced to do this in non-emergency situations.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53014 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 2:24 am to
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Exact fricking problem with morons like him. Obviously wasn't an emergency, but he decides to go to the emergency room instead of a regular doctor.


Not only that, but he went to an expensive private hospital for it.

I don't have the slightest problem for the bill given the story already out.

Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
137064 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 9:01 am to
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By law insurers have to pay the charges from an ER. That is why the hospital is overcharging to begin with.

Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
84260 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 9:03 am to
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By law insurers have to pay the charges from an ER


If the insurer doesn't have an agreement with the provider, they have to pay?
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 9:04 am to
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If the insurer doesn't have an agreement with the provider, they have to pay?


My dad's did when he had a heart attack and the ambulance took him to an out-of-network hospital. There was a lot of wrangling and calls made, but they finally paid it. Not sure if there's a legal duty for them to pay, but he had no choice on the hospital he was taken to.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
84260 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 9:08 am to
Looks like its a NJ law

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New Jersey law demands that insurers cover the costs of ER visits, NBC said. United Healthcare ended up paying $6,640 on the bill. After the story hit the news, the hospital wrote off Hanusz-Rajkowski’s portion of the bill.



Again, rewarding stupidity. The douche bag should have to pay his portion of the co-pay. frick that piece of shite, he is the exact reason why healthcare costs for the healthy continue to rise.
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