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Posted on 2/18/25 at 8:48 am to TDsngumbo
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I am a very strong supporter of the Pneumococcal vaccine
If you weren’t still masking in 2025 you’d have a working immune system
Posted on 2/18/25 at 8:49 am to GatorOnAnIsland
I had the opposite experience. My PCP got fired from his practice at the hospital because he wasn't recommending the COVID vaccine and was treating patients instead of sending them home to stop breathing. He had to go to a smaller practice and start over.
Posted on 2/18/25 at 8:51 am to GatorOnAnIsland
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He told me to go find another doctor because he wouldn’t make enough money from the Govt. unless I get vaccinated. True story.
Nope!
Posted on 2/18/25 at 8:57 am to GatorOnAnIsland
That graph is just a little disingenuous.
The reason for most of those vaccines isn't to prevent death. The reason is to stop the spread of diseases that are highly contagious.
The reason for most of those vaccines isn't to prevent death. The reason is to stop the spread of diseases that are highly contagious.
Posted on 2/18/25 at 8:59 am to the808bass
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Doctors reimbursed by managed Medicare plans have plenty of time to argue over shite like that. They get compensated on patient vaccination rates.
This.
The OP was paraphrasing what the doctor said (I'm sure he didn't literally say, "I won't make enough money from the government"), but the OP's story is not at all far-fetched.
Like I said, we were kicked out of the first pediatrician's office we took our first child to for refusing to vaccinate. That doctor didn't say anything about money, but we sure as hell were fired as patients because of it.
Posted on 2/18/25 at 9:01 am to NC_Tigah
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As I said, the only thing that makes any sense is that the poster is conflating strep and staph.
Could be. I'm like that when it comes to medical terminology.
Posted on 2/18/25 at 9:03 am to GatorOnAnIsland
RFK, Jr. is right.
I had measles, mumps and chicken pox as a child.
I'm 64 now and haven't had anything worse than a cold since I was a teenager.
I had measles, mumps and chicken pox as a child.
I'm 64 now and haven't had anything worse than a cold since I was a teenager.
Posted on 2/18/25 at 9:10 am to mtntiger
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That graph is just a little disingenuous.
The reason for most of those vaccines isn't to prevent death. The reason is to stop the spread of diseases that are highly contagious.
I disagree. Did you watch the video clip? The interviewer sputtered at RFK b/c he said he wouldn't vaccinate his kids against measles or mumps based on what? "BUT CHILDREN DIE OF THOSE DISEASES!"
It's pretty much always the threat that is used to try to bully someone to vaccinate, so it's relevant.
Plus, vaccination injury is more common than vaccine death (to be fair, so is injury due to the disease).
The problem is that no one really knows how common it is because that reporting is actively covered up and has been since forever.
This is what I tried to tell people during COVID. You think all of the looking the other way when all indications are that the vaccine caused an injury are just related to COVID? Not even close. It's standard operating procedure.
Heck, the COVID shots are the least covered up in the sense that when some otherwise young, healthy person drops dead of a heart condition, it happens a year or two after they get vaccinated. Legitimately it could be any one of a dozen factors that led to the death or injury...it's too far out to be definitive.
But I've seen (over the years) hundreds of parents telling anecdotal stories of their child being perfectly normal, getting the MMR shot, and within 6-12 hours becoming not normal (and staying not normal).
And in every case, the clinic/doctor who vaccinated them claimed it was a "coincidence" and that it had nothing to do with the shot, which means that they didn't report it as an injury.
Pretty much any vaccine you take or give to your child is not going to be with anything approaching full disclosure. I don't care how long the shots have been on the market, they aren't "proven" when injury reporting is as dishonest as it has always been.
This post was edited on 2/18/25 at 9:11 am
Posted on 2/18/25 at 9:13 am to Aubie Spr96
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I had the opposite experience. My PCP got fired from his practice at the hospital because he wasn't recommending the COVID vaccine and was treating patients instead of sending them home to stop breathing. He had to go to a smaller practice and start over.
You had the opposite experience, but your experience proves the machine just as much as his.
There is huge pressure to push these things.
Posted on 2/18/25 at 9:14 am to GatorOnAnIsland
There is so much bad information here it creates a huge red flag for credibility
First, you are saying the “virus”. Pneumococcal vaccine is against a bacteria
There are ages at which humans have increased risks because our CD4 T cells lose functionality, in part due to telomerase
And doctors fire patients because they are difficult or continually noncompliant which opens the doctor up for lawsuits when eventually something bad happens and the family sues because daddy wasn’t on the best medicines…
First, you are saying the “virus”. Pneumococcal vaccine is against a bacteria
There are ages at which humans have increased risks because our CD4 T cells lose functionality, in part due to telomerase
And doctors fire patients because they are difficult or continually noncompliant which opens the doctor up for lawsuits when eventually something bad happens and the family sues because daddy wasn’t on the best medicines…
Posted on 2/18/25 at 9:17 am to Big4SALTbro
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Otherwise unless it’s a trauma event I won’t be going to a dr.
If you piss or shite blood, I’m betting you will still go to the doctor.
Posted on 2/18/25 at 9:22 am to GatorOnAnIsland
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He told me to go find another doctor because he wouldn’t make enough money from the Govt. unless I get vaccinated.
More likely, this doctor is among the many who are booked up and will gladly drop a patient they know is likely to argue with them all the time for one who is easygoing and follows the recommendations.
Posted on 2/18/25 at 9:26 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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I don't believe you

Posted on 2/18/25 at 9:29 am to Aubie Spr96
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I had the opposite experience. My PCP got fired from his practice at the hospital because he wasn't recommending the COVID vaccin
Exactly, only my Dr caved into the corporate or govt mandates.
Posted on 2/18/25 at 9:29 am to Norbert
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More likely, this doctor is among the many who are booked up and will gladly drop a patient they know is likely to argue with them all the time for one who is easygoing and follows the recommendations.
Sure, most doctors' egos can't stand a patient not asking "how high?" when they say jump, that's very true.
But it's also true what 808 posted upthread about Medicare reimbursement.
I also don't think the doctor said what the OP claimed (I think that was most likely his own embellishment). But what he claimed isn't necessarily false.
And I employed doctors for 18 years of my career, so I saw a fair amount of them.
Posted on 2/18/25 at 9:31 am to GatorOnAnIsland
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He told me to go find another doctor because he wouldn’t make enough money from the Govt. unless I get vaccinated. True story.
:IdontBelieveYou:
Posted on 2/18/25 at 9:33 am to Giantkiller
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I don't believe you. No doctor has time to argue over shite like that

Posted on 2/18/25 at 9:33 am to GatorOnAnIsland
All Vaccines are a $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Grab- Nicotine kills all the Viruses A complete scam by Big Pharma
Posted on 2/18/25 at 9:33 am to wackatimesthree
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On an individual level, however, the risk vs reward usually doesn't make sense
In a country with high vaccination rates. You’re just hiding behind everybody else and puffing your chest out.
That table the OP embedded is misleading.
Those numbers are certainly not the case fatality rates for various illnesses matched against the odds of dying from the vaccine.
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