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re: Navy launches USS New Jersey, first gender-neutral submarine in US fleet
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:30 am to Longhorn Actual
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:30 am to Longhorn Actual
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I know you didn't mean it that way, but it's what you typed. Maybe sit this one out.
Yeah, the one person in this thread who is actively serving in the Navy and who has deployed with females on submarines should sit this one out. Since you know what I meant, maybe you should ignore the semantics and actually engage my argument.
This post was edited on 9/15/24 at 10:31 am
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Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:30 am to RollTide1987
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I have not discerned a notable drop in the quality of work being done.
In the last 10 years, how many officers have been relieved after being caught banging members of the crew? How many are doing it but haven’t been caught? How many women have been impregnated during deployments?
It ain’t your father’s navy. Mark my words, it’s going to cost us dearly.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:31 am to RollTide1987
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No, they made those changes so that women could have their own berthing and bathrooms.
Wrong. That’s ONE of the reasons they made changes.
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….. overhead valves were also designed with the height, reach and strength of women in mind.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:33 am to RollTide1987
I served on the Los Angeles class, SSN qualified.
Of course that was over 40 years ago, but memory says every inch of space was used, privacy was what you made it.
Hard to imagine how they were able to redesign for added privacy. The Virginia class is a little longer and wider, but also has a larger payload.
Of course that was over 40 years ago, but memory says every inch of space was used, privacy was what you made it.
Hard to imagine how they were able to redesign for added privacy. The Virginia class is a little longer and wider, but also has a larger payload.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:34 am to Flats
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….. overhead valves were also designed with the height, reach and strength of women in mind.
Which is a waste of money when you get around to it. Submarines don't offer a lot of head room and I've hit my head on plenty of overhead valves - have the scars to prove it - and I'm only 5'9".
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:35 am to stout
See how we patrol?
Very mindful very demure
Very mindful very demure
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:37 am to ValZacs
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Of course that was over 40 years ago, but memory says every inch of space was used, privacy was what you made it.
Your memory is very good. I just got off of a Los Angeles class back in July and they are still lacking in the privacy department. Shaft Alley remains the only place where you can be alone for more than five minutes.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:42 am to RollTide1987
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If you have never been on a six-month-long deployment with them
I have and there was a difference.
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I have not discerned a notable drop in the quality of work being done.
This is a dubious claim.
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You do understand that the next major war is going to be the most distant and impersonal one in history, do you not? Naval engagements will be fought from hundreds of miles away between cruisers and destroyers that are attempting to shoot long range missiles at themselves and the aircraft carriers.
Our Navy and Air Force have not fought anything since Vietnam. No contested air space, no naval engagements.
This long distance warfare is still going to hurl munitions into vehicles, vessels, and airframes and it's going to be people that must react to do damage control, put out fires, navigate, and fight under degraded conditions.
And, when the satellites go down, there won't be any people typing commands at a computer. We could very easily be reduced to WWII type conditions. The idea that future warfare is going to be more like a video game is fantasy. The networks are going down and if we face a peer competitor, the network will probably be the first thing to go down.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:46 am to stout
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first gender-neutral submarine
My initial thought was that the Navy was going to refer to the sub as a they/them.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:49 am to POTUS2024
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I have and there was a difference.
Which submarine was it and when? I'm curious.
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This is a dubious claim.
It's a personal anecdote. I know those don't add up to a hill of beans but it's what I've personally seen.
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Our Navy and Air Force have not fought anything since Vietnam. No contested air space, no naval engagements.This long distance warfare is still going to hurl munitions into vehicles, vessels, and airframes and it's going to be people that must react to do damage control, put out fires, navigate, and fight under degraded conditions.
And, when the satellites go down, there won't be any people typing commands at a computer. We could very easily be reduced to WWII type conditions. The idea that future warfare is going to be more like a video game is fantasy. The networks are going down and if we face a peer competitor, the network will probably be the first thing to go down.
This is all speculation. While I have no doubt of this happening if we do get into a shooting war with China or Russia, I don't rate the Russian surface navy very highly and the Chinese are still trying to figure their doctrine out.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:57 am to stout
A phallic shaped boat full of seamen is gender neutral. Interesting
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:03 am to stout
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I can't imagine this ending well for the women.
O/U number who become pregnant during first deployment.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:03 am to stout
Codename: the love boat
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:06 am to stout
This will not end well for them. It is pretty much routine for multiple women who are on long Naval cruises to end up pregnant.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:09 am to RustyDaDog
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So the Air Force had the tail hook scandal
Are you from another timeline or is it a Mandela Effect thing, but isolated to your living room?
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:16 am to RustyDaDog
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Air Force had the tail hook scandal,
Yea, those damn tailhooks on the AF fighter jets was a big scandal.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:27 am to stout
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The U.S. Navy commissioned a new submarine on Saturday, the first vessel in its fleet designed to fully integrate male and female sailors.
Rape lawsuits against the Navy on deck in 3, 2, 1...
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:33 am to RustyDaDog
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Air Force - tail hook
Navy
Posted on 9/15/24 at 12:22 pm to SloaneRanger
On a 10 month deployment on a sub a woman could conceivably get pregnant and give birth without ever surfacing.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 12:27 pm to cajunangelle
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what if someone that practices beastiality sues because there isn't a zebra or giraffe, sheep, aboard to screw?
what if the lucerferians sue because there isn't live animals onboard for sacrifice and black mass relics?
what if any Haitian immigrants sue because there aren’t any ducks or cats on board to eat ?
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