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re: Nothing wrong with JD Vance. Everything wrong with being too scared to stand up.

Posted on 7/27/24 at 2:48 pm to
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
139679 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 2:48 pm to
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But there are industries that are of vital national security and they should be protected using tariffs and other measures.


This is changing the argument


So you are not against tariffs totally?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
470897 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 2:49 pm to
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Makes more sense than subsidizing their production here to the tune of billions of dollars.

I don't think tariffs will make American chips more viable, though. That's the issue. The subsidy-based plan may not work, either. I'm not defending that plan specifically.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
470897 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 2:51 pm to
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So you are not against tariffs totally?

You're changing the argument.

Your initial comment was not about national security.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
20799 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 2:52 pm to
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Trump should switch to vivek or tulsi to ensure a win
I would say I can’t believe anyone was stupid enough to say this, but unfortunately you weren’t the only one with an IQ below room temperature.

Vivek would get portrayed as the worst robber baron even to walk the earth, and you’d see enough of his “quotes” manufactured from bits and pieces of various speeches you’d be screaming he dumped a bad pick for a worse one.

Tulsi, same thing, different subjects (yes plural).

That doesn’t even begin the attacks on Trump himself for his poor decision making, looking for a puppet he can use at need, etc.

Take at least 5 seconds to think next time before hitting submit.
Posted by crazyatthecamp
Member since Nov 2006
2274 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 2:53 pm to
Respectfully
Do the posters that agree with the OP live in predominantly red areas?

I don't.

I get both sides.

I just want to win. Can't do anything without a win.

Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
139679 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 2:53 pm to
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I don't think tariffs will make American chips more viable, though. That's the issue. The subsidy-based plan may not work, either. I'm not defending that plan specifically.



Look I'm an every tool in the toolbox guy. The problem with the "conservative" position on trade is the countries that you are negotiating with already know you are bought off by multinationals that will not allow you use tariffs as part of the negotiating strategy. That puts them in a very strong position from before negotiation ever begin. They get their way before talks even begin.

Trump does not play that game.
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
23075 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 2:55 pm to
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too scared to stand up


There is a word for that...Pussy
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
41791 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 2:56 pm to
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What is Vance standing up for exactly?


You know the answer:JD Vance

Dude is about as much a hillbilly as Obama is black.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
139679 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 2:56 pm to
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So you are not against tariffs totally?


You're changing the argument.

Your initial comment was not about national security.


In my initial argument I asserted that Trump was nationalistic. You claimed it was a euphonism for liberal. I retorted call it whatever you want, Trump on trade is about reciprocity and making good deals for the U.S.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
470897 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 2:59 pm to
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Look I'm an every tool in the toolbox guy.


This is basically saying you don't have principles re: smaller government and see it the same as Leftists (as a means to political desires of that moment).

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The problem with the "conservative" position on trade is the countries that you are negotiating with already know you are bought off by multinationals that will not allow you use tariffs as part of the negotiating strategy.

Tariffs are bad strategy for the domestic population and consumers.

This manipulation is not needed for market-based policies.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
470897 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 2:59 pm to
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Trump on trade is about reciprocity and making good deals for the U.S.


laughs in Thomas Sowell
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14941 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 4:06 pm to
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No worries about JD.....we need to stop the cheating by the DEMS!

First you need to find cheating by the dems.

What were the vote totals for each state where you allege there was fraud.

That was the reason Trump lost all those election fraud cases.

He has not released a single authoritative report on election fraud in any state.

At one point he threatened to release what he called an "irrefutable report" on election fraud in Georgia which was prepared by Trump sycophant Liz Harrington but changed his mind.

She had previously made a claim on Arizona based on the ridiculous "missing voter" gibberish of Tom Piton, who used unique last names to come up with 160,000 missing voters in Arizona.

Trump doesn't have a single election fraud report made by a reputable expert using industry accepted replicable methodology.

Not one. Why is that??

Because his election fraud claims are made up horseshite - that only an imbecile would believe.

Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22351 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 4:13 pm to
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First you need to find cheating by the dems.

It starts with registration. Do you agree it's ridiculously easy for a non-citizen to register to vote in federal elections?
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
12713 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 4:14 pm to
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I'll go away now


If only you'd stay gone!
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
6807 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 5:19 pm to
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Label it liberal, nationalistic or whatever. MAGA really doesn't care about labels. Just want practical solutions.


Exactly Gumbo!
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14941 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 5:44 pm to
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It starts with registration. Do you agree it's ridiculously easy for a non-citizen to register to vote in federal elections?

Yes. i have ben meaning to look at the law that makes that possible. not sure of the rational behind it. this will make me do it.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22351 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 5:53 pm to
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Yes. i have ben meaning to look at the law that makes that possible. not sure of the rational behind it. this will make me do it.

What are the first couple of things that come to mind as to why Democrat administrations would sue states that pass laws making it more difficult to for non-citizens to register to vote in federal elections?
This post was edited on 7/27/24 at 5:55 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
127161 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 5:54 pm to
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Posted by BayouBlitz
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Is Trump a conservative?

I love it when proggies queers tell us what conservatism is.
This post was edited on 7/27/24 at 5:55 pm
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
22161 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 6:17 pm to
Yup. A white man stands up and speaks truth about whats best for America and gets some commie reactions folks panic. It's mostly not even for what he contextually said but what the commie MSM propaganda reports after twisting his words.

There are some really weak people on this board that aren't much better than the commie progs.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14941 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 6:33 pm to
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A white man stands up and speaks truth about whats best for America and gets some commie reactions folks panic.
Why don't you list these truths about what's best for America? Too scared to have to try to defend them?
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