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Posted on 8/16/17 at 8:28 am to Grim
Amazon has created more jobs than they have destroyed. There is not question about that. The service level of delivery to home takes a lot more people than does the service level at a store. UPS, FEDEX, Amazon distribution all are hiring.
Trump is a blow hard and should just shut up for a while and go to work lowering taxes.
Trump is a blow hard and should just shut up for a while and go to work lowering taxes.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 8:38 am to bmy
quote:This will somehow fortify their belief that he is anti-establishment. You can bank on that.
Going to be hilarious to watch the spin when he has the law changed to Amazon's detriment and this board defends him "picking winners and losers" and is pro-regulation for 3-4 days.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 8:40 am to I B Freeman
He's so inconsistent on taxes. He's throwing amazon under the bus for not paying taxes (as the law clearly allows), but then he praises new manufacturing plants built with huge tax cuts, including sales tax forgiveness.
He's all the frick over the place.
He's all the frick over the place.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 8:50 am to LSUTANGERINE
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I am saying that You can guarantee that if Amazon opened a new central Storage and shipping mega office , Trump would take credit for creating jobs.
Um well, no. They just opened an additional fulfillment center within the last few months right around the corner from where I live. The second one in my area. Not a peep from Trump. Seems you're wrong.....again.
Also, your buddy Obama damn well would have taken credit for job creation. All presidents take credit for job creation. Name one that hasn't.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 8:52 am to MardiGrasCajun
quote:Pretty sure those jobs are in the 1 million new jobs he takes credit for.
Um well, no. They just opened an additional fulfillment center within the last few months right around the corner from where I live. The second one in my area. Not a peep from Trump. Seems you're wrong.....again.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 8:54 am to mmcgrath
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Pretty sure those jobs are in the 1 million new jobs he takes credit for.
I am certain you are talking out of your arse as usual
Posted on 8/16/17 at 8:55 am to ShortyRob
quote:same. This is none of his business.
I disagree with Trump here
Posted on 8/16/17 at 8:56 am to 1999
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dropped my prime subscription last month. they seem to be taking over everything and it's creepy
You should look up how much Amazon actually owns, their servers make up a very large portion of the world wide web.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 8:57 am to roadGator
quote:
I am certain you are talking out of your arse as usual
and I'm pretty sure you are still just a dumbass as usual.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 9:05 am to Grim
he is right.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 9:07 am to cajunangelle
quote:No, he's not.
he is right.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 9:11 am to cajunangelle
quote:
he is right
I swear he could come out now and say PC and tablet space are destroying the typewriter industry and you'd agree with the logic there.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 9:34 am to Yak
BULLSHITE.
If that was true they would've paid taxes all these years in those states where they had warehouses, and they wouldn't start paying taxes where they STILL DONT have warehouses.
But we know the real reason to defend Amazon:
I call it "Thank you for supporting Democratic Party Bonus". Also, why is that this "not subsidy" wasn't given to brick and mortar stores.
MORE Bullshite, this may in fact be the number of people who lost their jobs because of Democratic party's support of Billionaire welfare queens such as Jeff Bezos.
LINK ]That is their worldwide employee count, that I am sure includes lots of people working in Chinese warehouses, lots of people working in India, lots of people with H1B visa working in Seattle.
Real number of people working in wharehouses may be much smaller.
Another article:
This is after all the help of Democratic Party, Obama, SJWs and almost no taxes for decades, "not subsidy" from USPS, tax credits and other incentives... Amazon is replacing only HALF as many jobs they are wiping out... with less and less humans and more and more robots.
That is why Trump is attacking WaPo, it is Amazon's lobbying arm in Washington.
If that was true they would've paid taxes all these years in those states where they had warehouses, and they wouldn't start paying taxes where they STILL DONT have warehouses.
But we know the real reason to defend Amazon:
quote:
Democrats don't care about "fair share" as long as the Billionaire welfare queens are giving money to Democratic Party.
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It's NOT a subsidy, for frick sakes.
I call it "Thank you for supporting Democratic Party Bonus". Also, why is that this "not subsidy" wasn't given to brick and mortar stores.
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They employ over 350,000 Americans. You are wrong.
MORE Bullshite, this may in fact be the number of people who lost their jobs because of Democratic party's support of Billionaire welfare queens such as Jeff Bezos.
LINK ]That is their worldwide employee count, that I am sure includes lots of people working in Chinese warehouses, lots of people working in India, lots of people with H1B visa working in Seattle.
Real number of people working in wharehouses may be much smaller.
quote:
Amazon Looks to Hire 30,000 Part-Time Employees
The online retailer on Thursday announced plans to hire 30,000 part-time workers in the U.S. over the next year, including 5,000 positions that will allow employees to work from home as customer service representatives. Amazon's incoming part-time employees will work 20 or more hours and receive benefits.
About 25,000 of the positions Amazon has floated will work in the company's sorting and fulfillment centers, a nod to the company's plans to boost the number of logistics facilities across the U.S. in the coming years. According to Amazon, all of its part-time workers are eligible for a Career Choice program that pre-pays 95% of an employee's tuition if he or she is working in fields that Amazon says are "in demand."
Another article:
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LINK ]With 6,000 new warehouse jobs, what is Amazon really delivering?
That spectacle could be coming this summer to a city near you. On May 26, Amazon announced 6,000 new full-time job openings at 19 of its distribution centers. Many are in communities that doled out generous tax credits and other incentives — including $10.3 million in Kenosha, Wisconsin, alone — to bring Amazon jobs to town.
So it’s a good time to ask: Are Amazon’s warehouse jobs worth lining up for? Should they be subsidized with taxpayer dollars? And what do they mean to the long-term economic health of their host communities?
On his 2013 jobs tour, President Barack Obama stopped to deliver a speech at the aforementioned Amazon warehouse in Chattanooga. The audience cheered when he called for restoring the middle class through “good jobs with good wages.” But today that same warehouse is hiring at $11.25 an hour. That’s $23,400 annually, or $850 below the poverty line for a family of four.
Hourly wages at the other warehouses listed in Amazon’s recent hiring announcement range from $11 in Jefferson, Indiana to $12.75 an hour in Robbinsville, New Jersey and Windsor, Connecticut.
Even by industry standards, those are some thin paychecks. Wal-Mart pays distribution center employees an average hourly wage of $19, said a spokesman for that company.
Meanwhile, Amazon’s treatment of warehouse workers has been under scrutiny since 2011, when an investigation by the Allentown Morning Call newspaper revealed what were — quite literally — sweatshop conditions. When summer temperatures exceeded 100 degrees inside the company’s Breinigsville, Pennsylvania warehouse, managers would not open the loading bay doors for fear of theft. Instead, they hired paramedics to wait outside in ambulances, ready to extract heat-stricken employees on stretchers and in wheelchairs, the investigation found. Workers also said they were pressured to meet ever-greater production targets, a strategy colloquially known as “management by stress.”
Amazon declined to answer the newspaper’s specific questions about working conditions in the warehouse but, eight months after the story was released, company officials announced that they’d spent $52 million to retrofit warehouses with air conditioning.
In my own interviews with dozens of Amazon warehouse workers, I’ve heard reports of repetitive stress injuries, pain and exhaustion. (Some called themselves “Amazombies.” Others said they tried to think of the job as a free fitness program.)
On the same day Amazon announced 6,000 new hires, teams from around the globe competed in the first-ever “Amazon Picking Challenge” in Seattle. Their goal? Build robots that can “pick” shelved items — in this case, the objects ranged from rubber ducks to The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn — with enough dexterity to someday replace human hands. (Amazon already has some 15,000 Kiva robots that transport shelves of merchandise to human “pickers,” but the act of picking has proved much harder to automate.)
Amazon maintains a very low headcount for its sales volume, which rose to $89 billion last year. Amazon creates just 17 jobs for every $10 million in sales, according to figures in its annual report. Compare that with traditional brick-and-mortar retailers, which create jobs at more than twice that rate: 42 positions for each $10 million in sales, according to an analysis of census data by the nonprofit Institute for Local Self-Reliance.
This is after all the help of Democratic Party, Obama, SJWs and almost no taxes for decades, "not subsidy" from USPS, tax credits and other incentives... Amazon is replacing only HALF as many jobs they are wiping out... with less and less humans and more and more robots.
That is why Trump is attacking WaPo, it is Amazon's lobbying arm in Washington.
This post was edited on 8/16/17 at 9:43 am
Posted on 8/16/17 at 9:42 am to el Gaucho
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he couldn't take "personal time". He had to miss the funeral and went to work and a couple days later they fired him for "not smiling enough" which apparently is a rule there
I'm sure there is something left out of this story. maybe it went more like "this guy has gone to 27 funerals this year and now we don't believe him" and then "this guy has a terrible attitude at work and doesn't fit with our company culture"
Posted on 8/16/17 at 10:37 am to someoneBEE
quote:They currently implement sales taxes in all but 5 states...the states that don't require sales tax. Again, they followed the rules given to them, and used it to further advance their presence (coincidentally with your map, a presence on the east coast, west coast, and midwest, a logistics wet dream) and create jobs and ease of use to their platform for their customers. Sounds like a good business decision to me
If that was true they would've paid taxes all these years in those states where they had warehouses, and they wouldn't start paying taxes where they STILL DONT have warehouses.
quote:Because those companies don't compare to the volume that Amazon puts out. With that volume comes rewards (and Sunday deliveries, and eventually, a deal). Amazon chose to use USPS over FedEx and UPS as it's primary deliverer. UPS and FedEx could have competed, and didn't. That's capitalism for you. And you're mad at it.
I call it "Thank you for supporting Democratic Party Bonus". Also, why is that this "not subsidy" wasn't given to brick and mortar stores.
quote:You really shouldn't have posted that link, because all it does is confirm the hundred of thousand of jobs that Amazon provide for Americans. A gem from that article:
MORE Bullshite, this may in fact be the number of people who lost their jobs because of Democratic party's support of Billionaire welfare queens such as Jeff Bezos.
That is their worldwide employee count, that I am sure includes lots of people working in Chinese warehouses, lots of people working in India, lots of people with H1B visa working in Seattle.
Real number of people working in wharehouses may be much smaller.
quote:How is this a bad thing again?
Amazon, which added more than 110,000 employees during 2016, doesn’t show any signs of slowing down. The company said previously that it plans to add another 100,000 full-time jobs in the U.S. over the next 18 months.
quote:This is all your opinion. Why are you so fricking mad at capitalism, technology, and jobs? How are you mad at that, yet, completely cool with someone who builds their empire with Chinese steel, hires the bulk of their employees through H1B's, refuses to pay contractors, and makes their products overseas? How is one smart, but not the other?
This is after all the help of Democratic Party, Obama, SJWs and almost no taxes for decades, "not subsidy" from USPS, tax credits and other incentives... Amazon is replacing only HALF as many jobs they are wiping out... with less and less humans and more and more robots.
That is why Trump is attacking WaPo, it is Amazon's lobbying arm in Washington.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 10:51 am to Pinecone Repair
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I don't blame Amazon.
I blame shitty retail stores that are overpriced and out of stock with shitty employees that could give a frick if I'm trying to spend my money with them or not.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 11:00 am to someoneBEE
quote:I don't get the tax argument. If they didn't have to institute a sales tax, why would they? Are we now expecting people and companies to pay taxes they aren't required to pay?
If that was true they would've paid taxes all these years in those states where they had warehouses, and they wouldn't start paying taxes where they STILL DONT have warehouses.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 11:02 am to Grim
Have you learned nothing? This is his opening negotiation offer. Ask for bigger than you want, deal down to what you actually want.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 11:11 am to Grim
It's called capitalism, welcome to America
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