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re: Pope Francis infection is presenting a "complex, clinical picture" according to Vatican
Posted on 2/17/25 at 12:39 pm to Wally Sparks
Posted on 2/17/25 at 12:39 pm to Wally Sparks
All the popes are down there. Because every damn one of them knows they weren't "vicars" of Christ. No where did God ever say the RCC was "the church." Or that it had preeminence. And on a side note, some of the RCC's own "historians" determined about a quarter century ago, that about 85% of those studying for the "priesthood" were homosexuals. 85% And while I'm at it, piss on you Calvinists as well....
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 12:44 pm to RollTide1987
Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome is indeed a "complex clinical picture".
This post was edited on 2/17/25 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 2/17/25 at 12:46 pm to RollTide1987
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complex, clinical picture
How can this mean anything else other than? He's probably dying or can't be cured.
I guess "doctors don't have more options " is off the table
Posted on 2/17/25 at 12:50 pm to RollTide1987
I do not think he has long. Next Pope needs to MCGA.
Posted on 2/17/25 at 12:56 pm to stelly1025
Catholicism was never great.
Posted on 2/17/25 at 1:01 pm to mistersnagalotapus
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No where did God ever say the RCC was "the church."
So what is "the church" then in your humble opinion? The universal body of believers? Well, that's problematic considering we are told that the Holy Spirit cannot error and yet we have Christians out there who have different ideas on baptism, the nature of God, the nature of Christ, the Eucharist, church on Saturday vs. Sunday, speaking in tongues, dancing, drinking, gambling, homosexuality, abortion, and a whole host of other issues. All of them to a man claim to be guided by the Holy Spirit.
Someone has to be wrong. Not everyone can be right. So if Christendom truly is the "body of believers" in an invisible church then I must conclude that there is no God because everything is essentially permissible. If I don't like what your pastor is teaching on a certain topic, I can either go to another church that is more in line with my theology or start my own church based on said theology.
This post was edited on 2/17/25 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 2/17/25 at 1:02 pm to RollTide1987
BYE FELICIA!!
Posted on 2/17/25 at 1:16 pm to RollTide1987
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If I don't like what your pastor is teaching on a certain topic, I can either go to another church that is more in line with my theology or start my own church based on said theology.
This is what sola scriptura leads to if we are being honest, because scripture isn't really the final authority. It's each person's interpretation of scripture. Sola Mea Interpretatio.
Posted on 2/17/25 at 1:31 pm to Stitches
quote:There is no need to exaggerate or make false statements.
Just like every single person who lived prior to the reformation.
There were many who taught the biblical concept of sola fide throughout history, prior to the Reformation. Wessel Gansfort taught this and he died when Luther was a child. Girolamo Savonarola also had a similar belief and lived in the 1400s. John Wycliffe also taught this generally about 200 years before the Reformation. The Waldensians began about 400 years prior to the Reformation and they seemed to hold to this belief. Various others going back to Clement seem to indicate justification by faith apart from meritorious works, as well.
It certainly wasn’t as clean and clear in all of the writings early on that Catholics like yourself wrongly conclude. Many did teach clearly that works were meritorious for salvation/justification in addition to faith, but that wasn’t as clear and universal as you make it sound.
A problem with Catholics that I see often is an exaggeration of the unity of the ECFs, especially in relation to modern Catholic teachings, as well as forcing modern teachings back into the language of the ECFs.
Posted on 2/17/25 at 1:32 pm to SloaneRanger
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Is it a sin to root for the infection?
#TeamInfection
Posted on 2/17/25 at 1:33 pm to RollTide1987
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Pope Francis
the last Pope
the great schism is nigh
Posted on 2/17/25 at 1:40 pm to RollTide1987
If you do not pray for this Pope in all his brokenness you cannot claim to be a member of Catholic Apostolic Church.
If you wish death on this Pope you are neither Catholic or Christian but do the work of your father who knows no truth.
The Catholic Church is the only apostolic church with its root in Jesus Christ through the apostles. Simon Peter being it's first Catholic leader on this earth.
This lineage was ordained by the Father through the Holy Spirit. When this truth is denied it is the Holy Spirit that is denied and blasphemed and Jesus Christ was very clear in his teaching about blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. When you teach other to blaspheme the Holy Spirit through lies your just reward will be the millstone of which Jesus was also crystal clear.
If you wish death on this Pope you are neither Catholic or Christian but do the work of your father who knows no truth.
The Catholic Church is the only apostolic church with its root in Jesus Christ through the apostles. Simon Peter being it's first Catholic leader on this earth.
This lineage was ordained by the Father through the Holy Spirit. When this truth is denied it is the Holy Spirit that is denied and blasphemed and Jesus Christ was very clear in his teaching about blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. When you teach other to blaspheme the Holy Spirit through lies your just reward will be the millstone of which Jesus was also crystal clear.
Posted on 2/17/25 at 1:40 pm to RollTide1987
Is that a euphemism for 'he's dying?!?!'
Posted on 2/17/25 at 1:45 pm to Stitches
quote:This is a fundamental misunderstanding of sola scriptura. The freedom to interpret Scripture means that Popes, Pastors, and Councils cannot bind consciences apart from the Scriptures, but it also means that we must conform our interpretations to Scripture, not our own vain perversions and opinions. While Christians are free to interpret Scripture, we are not free to interpret it wrongly. This is why the historical, biblical hermeneutic is to use Scripture to interpret Scripture.
This is what sola scriptura leads to if we are being honest, because scripture isn't really the final authority. It's each person's interpretation of scripture. Sola Mea Interpretatio.
Catholics make it sound like Protestants promote chaos by allowing anyone to believe whatever they want, but that isn’t true. We believe that there is one infallible authority that we are bound to submit ourselves to and that authority cannot be wielded to false ends, which is why we still argue with one another over various understandings.
Posted on 2/17/25 at 1:47 pm to 4Bagger
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It's hard for me to believe a Pope will spend eternity in hell...but, so be it.
Sadly there have been some truly awful popes over the millenia. Downright evil men occasionally.
Posted on 2/17/25 at 1:50 pm to Stitches
quote:Paul argued that Abraham was justified by his faith apart from works, and while I’m not a historian, I’m pretty sure Abraham lived before Moses.
In fact, every single time without a single exception that Paul admonished works unto salvation, he was speaking about works of the Mosaic law. Those are not the same as good works done in and through the Grace of Jesus.
This post was edited on 2/17/25 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 2/17/25 at 2:17 pm to RollTide1987
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Pope Francis infection is presenting a "complex, clinical picture" according to Vatican
Yahweh creates all evil. Isaiah 45:7
Hopefully he uses some of that evil on this communist Pope.
Maybe Yahweh can even sick his evil sidekicks that he “acquired” from his brother Mot (Canaanite god of the dead)…
Any of y’all ever see these Canaanite evil deities in the Bible? Deber, Qeteb, Rasheph.
Hosea 13:14
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I shall ransom them from the power of Sheol; I shall redeem them from Mot. O Mot, where is your Deber? O Sheol, where is your Qeteb? Compassion is hidden from my eyes.
Habbakuk 3
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3Eloah came from Teman, and Qadosh from Mount Paran. Selah His splendor covered the heavens, and the earth was full of his praise. 4His brightness was like the light; rays flashed from his hand; and there he veiled his power. 5Before him went Deber, and Rasheph followed at his heels.
ETA: Downvote if you acknowledge Yahweh was originally an Edomite war god (Teman / Mount Paran).
This post was edited on 2/17/25 at 2:47 pm
Posted on 2/17/25 at 2:31 pm to FooManChoo
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Paul argued that Abraham was justified by his faith apart from works
Which book, chapter, and verse shows Abraham being justified?
Posted on 2/17/25 at 2:34 pm to FooManChoo
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This is what sola scriptura leads to
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It's each person's interpretation
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Sola Mea Interpretatio
You:
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This is a fundamental misunderstanding of sola scriptura
Exactly my point. That is YOUR interpretation of sola scriptura, and when another person's holy spirit led interpretation disagrees with your holy spirit led interpretation, you simply claim that they aren't employing sola scriptura correctly in order to arrive at their interpretation. You are your own arbiter of truth.
Posted on 2/17/25 at 2:36 pm to RollTide1987
All are not “believers”. See the pope.
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