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re: Pope: “You ain’t pro life”.

Posted on 10/3/25 at 9:15 pm to
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
14176 posts
Posted on 10/3/25 at 9:15 pm to
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What exactly did he say that is nonsense?

Where is all this inhumane treatment of illegals going on? Not finding and deporting them... that's not inhumane, as you know. But the actual inhumane treatment of them.

And being Pro-Life and yet still in favor of the death penalty are not mutually exclusive ideas.
This post was edited on 10/3/25 at 9:18 pm
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
54280 posts
Posted on 10/3/25 at 9:21 pm to
quote:

Where is all this inhumane treatment of illegals going on? Not finding and deporting them... that's not inhumane, as you know. But the actual inhumane treatment of them.

And being Pro-Life and yet still in favor of the death penalty are not mutually exclusive ideas.


Yes, I agree with you. Thanks for the clarification. I don't think what he said is "nonsense". We disagree on that. I would characterize his words as misinformed and somewhat insulting and uncharitable.
This post was edited on 10/3/25 at 9:30 pm
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
4908 posts
Posted on 10/3/25 at 9:28 pm to
Leo needs to pickup a Holy Bible and read it
Posted by A10Rebel
Colorado
Member since Nov 2018
892 posts
Posted on 10/3/25 at 9:47 pm to
quote:

“Someone who says ‘I’m against abortion but says I am in favor of the death penalty’ is not really pro-life,”


That's right. I'm not pro-life; I'm anti-abortion. I want murdering bastards and pedophiles to ride the lightning.
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
23085 posts
Posted on 10/3/25 at 11:13 pm to
He doesn't know the difference between an unborn baby and a murderer?
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
22015 posts
Posted on 10/4/25 at 12:07 am to
quote:

and fully recognize the incongruity between the Pro Life and Pro Death Penalty stance
there is no incongruity, there is a very easy distinction between the 2 scenarios.
Posted by PorkBelly
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2021
586 posts
Posted on 10/4/25 at 7:31 am to
So is he saying Saint Augustine and Saint Thomas Aquinas are wrong? I’ll stick with the them on this one.
Posted by evil cockroach
27.98N // 86.92E
Member since Nov 2007
9051 posts
Posted on 10/4/25 at 8:24 am to
Me: “How is this new Pope on Catholic teaching”

Checks TD

F THE POPE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE

Me: “Whew, yep, he’s doing well”
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
6985 posts
Posted on 10/4/25 at 8:31 am to
quote:

There's more to it than that, but in essence Jesus wasn't abolishing the death penalty but calling out hypocrisy.

Also to mention that it was a lynch mob and not the government.

Rome was the government and held the power of life and death.

Render unto Caesar things that are Caesars.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
46288 posts
Posted on 10/4/25 at 8:54 am to
quote:

Catholics aren't supposed to support the death penalty
The catechism indicates a total reversal of position in this topic over time, considering the RCC—working in conjunction with the civil authorities—would put people to death for certain crimes and heresies in the past.

How do you justify the current position of the RCC on the death penalty given both the biblical support for it and the historical acceptance and even promotion of it throughout the Church (e.g., Augustine’s just war theory and general position of civil justice outside of religious prosecutions, and Aquinas’ teaching on proportional justice)?

I’m honestly curious to know, given that you adhere completely to the catechism, which denounces the practice.
Posted by John somers
Los Proxima
Member since Oct 2024
1239 posts
Posted on 10/4/25 at 8:59 am to
Also Pope: "You can't talk to God unless I say so"
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
19695 posts
Posted on 10/4/25 at 9:03 am to
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Removing people here illegally is not inhumane. It’s not like they are running them down and setting them on fire

Maybe his holiness the pope will offer all the immigrants a place to live in his Vatican City where they have plenty money.
Posted by Squirrelmeister
Member since Nov 2021
3520 posts
Posted on 10/4/25 at 9:05 am to
quote:

It’s not like they are running them down and setting them on fire

There’s an idea. Armored trucks - maybe even drones - with flame throwers. I bet “las palabras” would quickly spread and the need to use the flame throwers would diminish.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
20158 posts
Posted on 10/4/25 at 9:09 am to
quote:

“Someone who says that ‘I’m against abortion, but I’m in agreement with the inhuman treatment of immigrants in the United States,’ I don’t know if that’s pro-life.”

I’m not for inhumane treatment of anyone. Treat them with dignity, respect, medical care, etc. and deport them.
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
54280 posts
Posted on 10/4/25 at 10:12 am to
quote:

I’m not for inhumane treatment of anyone. Treat them with dignity, respect, medical care, etc. and deport them.


Exactly. This is the American Way and we are not an inhumane people.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
27358 posts
Posted on 10/4/25 at 10:14 am to
quote:

Me: “Whew, yep, he’s doing well”


Thoughts on the Vatican wall?
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
54280 posts
Posted on 10/4/25 at 10:24 am to
[link=(Thoughts on the Vatican wall?)]LINK[/link]

The Vatican is in independent country and the walls have been there for centuries.

You want them to tear down those walls? If so, explain why.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
46288 posts
Posted on 10/4/25 at 10:49 am to
quote:

You want them to tear down those walls? If so, explain why.
Since Catholic doctrine seems to change over time, the walls should change to reflect it.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
108488 posts
Posted on 10/4/25 at 12:14 pm to
These Pope dudes really need to STFU and go find a piece of ice, boulder, seashell, plant, or whatever else that douche wants to perform a meaningless blessing upon.
Posted by The Pickwick
Member since Jan 2025
594 posts
Posted on 10/4/25 at 12:16 pm to
quote:

Since Catholic doctrine seems to change over time


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