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re: Rapture Ready
Posted on 11/24/25 at 10:53 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 11/24/25 at 10:53 am to SlowFlowPro
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You would probably STILL say that Trump/Russia collusion was real?
Still? I never did Mr. "can't respond relevantly or truthfully"
Then, why aren't you capable of digging just a little bit deeper and asking yourself WHY they have been trying to destroy Trump for the past 10 years? If you could ever figure that out, it would change the way you see a lot of things.
I mean, has it never crossed your mind that theyve thrown everything possible at Trump in an effort to take him out?
Trump/Russia
Weismann/Mueller
2 impeachment trials
A highly questionable election
An FBI raid on his home
Indictments in 4 different jurisdictions
Attempts to take his name off of state ballots in the GOP primaries.
And FINALLY, BULLETS.
Seriously, it never crossed your mind that Trump has been subjected to a "tad bit" more insanity than the typical politician? And assuming that you have wondered about that, have you ever wondered why only Trump has been subjected to all of that?
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Posted on 11/24/25 at 10:54 am to BCreed1
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Let's start at the end shall we. As I understand it, Christians will no longer be here. That's the largest religion in the world. That event would suddenly make Islam the largest and most dominant.
well the majority of christians are catholic and we don't believe in the rapture nonsense.
the rapture is not part of any main stream protestant doctrine.
Posted on 11/24/25 at 11:11 am to BCreed1
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I have had some great conversations of late when it comes to politics/current events in relation to the Christian event of the rapture.
Let's start at the end shall we. As I understand it, Christians will no longer be here. That's the largest religion in the world. That event would suddenly make Islam the largest and most dominant.
Western governments were formed, regardless of what people think they know, on Christian beliefs. With the rapture, there will be nothing to stop the transformation into an islamic rule.
We are already seeing what the effects would be. Even here in the USA, we see it. We know. We are doing nothing about it now. So what will keep it from totally taking over if the rapture takes place?
If right, is the USA rapture ready? Are you?
Did you stop to think that if the Rapture actually happened, as prophesized in Revelations in the Christian Bible, that that is pretty decent evidence that the Christianity is the true religion, evidenced by Christ's second return actually occurring?
I think an event like that might trigger an explosion in Christianity... Don't you? How could you say Christianity is not the true religion when the Christian God pays Earth a visit??
And I don't think people will be going to Target and the Raising Canes after the Rapture. Not sure what kind of world you think will be going on at that time...
This post was edited on 11/24/25 at 11:20 am
Posted on 11/24/25 at 11:14 am to PlaylikeJeter
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PlaylikeJeter
Excellent rebuttal and discourse.
I know what GOD and Jesus have done for me- for mankind. I believe it and I've accepted them.
I just know in my heart that I sin too much and I'm not the best person I can be, in a Christlike way. I believe personally that every believer is a work-in-progress and I truly want to be better and do better. I not only want it, but I try my best to actually do it.
If that's enough to gain admission to the Kingdom of Heaven, I'll be happy with it. But I cannot permit myself to stop trying harder. This world is becoming taxing upon my soul and negativity is ALWAYS trying to pull me asunder.
Posted on 11/24/25 at 11:19 am to i am dan
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Did you stop to think that if the Rapture actually happened, as prophesized in Revelations in the Christian Bible, that that is pretty decent evidence that the Christianity is the true religion, evidenced by Christ's second return actually occurring?
I think an event like that might trigger an explosion in Christianity... Don't you? How could you then say Christianity is not a true religion when their God pays Earth a visit??
And I don't think people will be going to Target and the Raising Canes after the Rapture. Not sure what kind of world you think will be going on at that time
Correct
Posted on 11/24/25 at 12:05 pm to TigerAxeOK
I believe you, we all have as Paul explains.
13 Has then what is good become death to me? Certainly not! But sin, that it might appear sin, was producing death in me through what is good, so that sin through the commandment might become exceedingly sinful. 14 For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am carnal, sold under sin. 15 For what I am doing, I do not understand. For what I will to do, that I do not practice; but what I hate, that I do. 16 If, then, I do what I will not to do, I agree with the law that it is good. 17 But now, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me. 18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh) nothing good dwells; for to will is present with me, but how to perform what is good I do not find. 19 For the good that I will to do, I do not do; but the evil I will not to do, that I practice. 20 Now if I do what I will not to do, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me.
13 Has then what is good become death to me? Certainly not! But sin, that it might appear sin, was producing death in me through what is good, so that sin through the commandment might become exceedingly sinful. 14 For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am carnal, sold under sin. 15 For what I am doing, I do not understand. For what I will to do, that I do not practice; but what I hate, that I do. 16 If, then, I do what I will not to do, I agree with the law that it is good. 17 But now, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me. 18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh) nothing good dwells; for to will is present with me, but how to perform what is good I do not find. 19 For the good that I will to do, I do not do; but the evil I will not to do, that I practice. 20 Now if I do what I will not to do, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me.
Posted on 11/24/25 at 12:31 pm to BCreed1
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Let's start at the end shall we. As I understand it, Christians will no longer be here. That's the largest religion in the world. That event would suddenly make Islam the largest and most dominant.
It’s all made up dude. Paul had to write letters (e.g. 1 Thes 4) to his followers who expected the parousia within their generation, which was supposed to be “very soon” because they were at the “last hours”… 2000 years ago. The first batch of Christians didn’t think they would even experience death before they received their new pneumatic bodies and the heavens and earth would be destroyed and renewed.
There will be no rapture. Jesus is a fictive mythical character.
Posted on 11/24/25 at 1:25 pm to i am dan
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as prophesized in Revelations
nope it comes from Thessalonians 4:13–18 not revelations
it was discovered by john nelson darby in the 1830's been there the whole time just he was the one who figured it out just like magic!
continuing the long historical protestant tradition of making up doctrine as they go along.
Posted on 11/24/25 at 1:43 pm to BCreed1
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So what will keep it from totally taking over if the rapture takes place?
The 2nd Amendment.
Next Question.
Posted on 11/24/25 at 2:09 pm to SlowFlowPro
The powers that be know that this Religion Board and Religion topics generate very long threads, so, they make money for the website.
Posted on 11/24/25 at 2:51 pm to BCreed1
The belief in a pre-trib rapture is an incredibly novel teaching in Christianity and is almost certainly false.
Posted on 11/24/25 at 3:16 pm to LSUbest
No, thank you. I had completely forgotten about this nugget.
That’s my sister’s son, my godson, he was born 06/06/2006
He started bawling when the chism and water was applied at his baptism and I turned to my mom and said “see I told you so”, being the fine Catholic grandmother that she is, she didn’t find it nearly as ball-bustingly funny as I did. True story.
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On the 6th day, of the 6th month, of the year 2006
That’s my sister’s son, my godson, he was born 06/06/2006
He started bawling when the chism and water was applied at his baptism and I turned to my mom and said “see I told you so”, being the fine Catholic grandmother that she is, she didn’t find it nearly as ball-bustingly funny as I did. True story.
Posted on 11/24/25 at 3:17 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
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I was in a bible study and the instructor/facilitator saids the rapture is not biblical. If that is wrong, point me to the chapter and verse.
If your "Bible study" doesn't think the Bible is real, then you're not a real Bible study.
Posted on 11/24/25 at 4:01 pm to SlowFlowPro
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You don't find that to be kind of a big deal?
No
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It basically opens the Bible up to adding anything man can invent, because if the Bible left out aliens, then it could theoretically leave anything out.
No it doesn't. The Bible is one unified story of God redeeming mankind. Why would it get into other lifeforms when it was inspired and written for a singular purpose?
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There could be 5 more Jesus-like figures who came after Jeuss. We just forgot to include them in the Bible, too. See how silly that gets? It basically invalidates the Bible itself as a foundational text.
Specluation and wishcasting. This is a silly position.
I originally thought you were asking questions in good faith. I see now your only purpose is to be contrarian and go off on silly rabbit holes that serve no real purpose other than to distract from people's points. I am not doing that. Have a good one.
This post was edited on 11/24/25 at 4:04 pm
Posted on 11/24/25 at 4:02 pm to BCreed1
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have had some great conversations of late when it comes to politics/current events in relation to the Christian event of the rapture. Let's start at the end shall we. As I understand it, Christians will no longer be here. That's the largest religion in the world. That event would suddenly make Islam the largest and most dominant. Western governments were formed, regardless of what people think they know, on Christian beliefs. With the rapture, there will be nothing to stop the transformation into an islamic rule. We are already seeing what the effects would be. Even here in the USA, we see it. We know. We are doing nothing about it now. So what will keep it from totally taking over if the rapture takes place? If right, is the USA rapture ready? Are you?
If it makes you feel better, none of this is real.
Posted on 11/24/25 at 4:11 pm to BCreed1
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I do not think the word "rapture" is found in the Bible. The event that is called "rapture" is.
Correct nor is the explicit word Trinity BUT the conceptual aspects of both are there...folks sometimes are simple minded and don't get that just because one uses phraseology and/or a moniker to an expressed Biblical truth doesn't make it any less Biblical/true because the exact word is not in the Bible. .
Posted on 11/24/25 at 4:46 pm to BCreed1
People that mix politics and religion scare the shite out of me.
Politics is about governance through rational compromise.
But Christian Conservatives believe they are acting in the name of God.
How can you begin to compromise with others if you have THAT kind of world view???
Furthermore. If they truly believe this is the end times and the rapture is really imminent, just fukin shut up and quit worrying about politics and quit voting. Trust in the magical sky daddy.
Politics is about governance through rational compromise.
But Christian Conservatives believe they are acting in the name of God.
How can you begin to compromise with others if you have THAT kind of world view???
Furthermore. If they truly believe this is the end times and the rapture is really imminent, just fukin shut up and quit worrying about politics and quit voting. Trust in the magical sky daddy.
This post was edited on 11/24/25 at 4:51 pm
Posted on 11/24/25 at 4:48 pm to BCreed1
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If right, is the USA rapture ready? Are you?
There's no such thing.
Hope your black Nike's are the right size though.
Posted on 11/24/25 at 5:15 pm to BCreed1
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Let's start at the end shall we.
Like you, I’m not taking a position on pre, mid, or post-trib. I’m ready to check out early, and I’m willing to fight it out to the death. I have seen convincing, biblically sound arguments for all positions (though mostly for pre and post).
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As I understand it, Christians will no longer be here. That's the largest religion in the world. That event would suddenly make Islam the largest and most dominant.
It only matters under a pre-trib scenario; and even then we’re talking about 7years. My focus is on that last statement. Christians (which are fractured between the many denominations of Pros, the few varieties of RC’s, and the few Ortho’s) account for 2.6 billion (roughly 1/3 of the world’s population). Muslims are at 2 billion- and out pacing Christians by 2 to 1. Conservative estimates show Islam becoming the dominant religion of the world by 2050. (I think that’s a very conservative estimate, and would say that it will happen closer to 2040- if not sooner)
All of this is being accomplished by Muslims out-birthing Christians 4 to 1. 97% of all Muslims are born and indoctrinated from birth. There are actually more Muslims leaving the religion than there are adult converts. But, the birth rate more than makes up the difference.
History is clear. Whenever Muslims become the majority in a country- the country becomes Muslim. Muslims are the dumbest people on earth(largely due to birth defects from centuries of incest). But, they are not to be taken lightly. They are too stupid to realize that they are cutting off the branches they sit on- and they wouldn’t care if they recognized it. They already have a foothold in this country (conservative estimates place the current US Muslim population at roughly 1%). That may seem insignificant, but at the rate they reproduce fully indoctrinated Muslims, in stark contrast to our declining birth rates, and decline in Christianity, and the way the Godless left embraces all things anti-Christ- it is only a matter of time. We have become a country of useful idiots.
ETA: But yall go ahead and keep fighting amongst yourselves with your prideful ignorance.
This post was edited on 11/24/25 at 5:17 pm
Posted on 11/24/25 at 5:39 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Naw. You're reaching too hard for that.
Im quite interested in your logic of how a Christ who suffered the passion for the world would work differently at any time.
If Christ is God, then "why it works" is because he died, and mankind needs a savior.
Though I may be misunderstanding what you mean by "why it works"
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But you're shifting the topic of what I was discussing into something completely different.
I am pointing out that if you observe what is missing (which I agree with you on), then you must also observe what is there.
Just simply noting that if Christianity must be false if Aliens exist, then it must also be false if indeed God is not in control, as that is a focal point of scripture again and again.
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