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Posted on 9/6/25 at 4:28 pm to
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 9/6/25 at 4:28 pm to
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Your arguments may be factual, but they are misguided. You’re missing the entire point.


I don't think the medical perspective is the only perspective, and I welcome other perspectives.

What's the entire point from your perspective?
Posted by MajorityWhip
Member since Oct 2020
1167 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 4:36 pm to
This is 100% a lie because the COVID jab is NOT a vaccine.

Try again.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11648 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 4:39 pm to
What's your definition of a vaccine?
Posted by Free888
Member since Oct 2019
3051 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 4:43 pm to
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Do you mean that the flu vaccines are given not positively knowing what strain of flu is coming? If so, does that mean we may be getting flu shots for a strain that is incorrect? What are those possibilities?


Flu vaccines are generally based on what was prevalent in the Southern Hemisphere the prior season. That said it’s a bit of a guess, thus why they’re usually about 50% effective.

Using the Flu vaccine as a reason to question RFK is simply a red herring. He’s questioning giving vaccines like the Hep B to infants. There’s very little reason to give it to them without extremely rigorous, very long term studies.

Lastly, on Covid, while the “vaccines” went through clinical testing, there’s no way the FDA should allow that for something like MRNA. A new technology like that is usually put through the wringer vs something like the flu vaccine. It’s also obvious that appropriate long term studies weren’t done, otherwise the myocarditis issue would have been apparent ahead of giving it to a patient population that didn’t need it (young healthy males).
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
101482 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 4:45 pm to
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This will surely enrage the board physicians. Nothing makes doctors more contemptuous than “untouchables” advocating for their own health.


My grandfather who is 92 was a doctor. Great man, humble, and did his job to help people not for the money. He was known not to bill people large amounts who couldn’t afford it, he helped a ton of people and would volunteer to work the ER at hospitals no charge.

During Covid I was against the vaccine as it was rushed and i read previous studies on mRNA shots, notably the one with ferrets where it destroyed their natural immune system and they all died two years later. I asked his opinion of the covid vax and his response was he was sure it was safe if the FDA and CDC ok’d it. He hadn’t really researched it as he was retired from practice but men his age grew up trusting these institutions because they used to be top notch and trustworthy. But I presented my concerns and the reports i read and how they fast tracked it without the proper studies and timeframe to determine long term effects. He came around to agree with me and said unless you’re elderly or at high risk he wouldn’t get that vaccine. He seemed proud that I did such research considering I have no medical background and said more people should do that because doctors and scientists are all human and imperfect and we should never accept everything at face value or what the “experts” say. That’s why on major medical issues you should always seek other opinions before making a decision.

So not all doctors are as you say. Some aren’t on their high horse and do their job knowing they don’t know everything and there’s always something to learn and the science can change and should be questioned. That’s why it’s called “practicing medicine”
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39520 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 4:46 pm to
Dear lord he is boring. He is also fricking retarded.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39520 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 4:58 pm to
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I know you don’t mean to, but it is condescending and makes you sound like you think you know it all.


Facts don’t care about your feelings. About medicine, I know quite a bit. My interest is my patients health. I could tell you innumerable stories of me doing far more than I should because I care about my patients. I’m sure the other doctors here can share similar stories. RFK is just lying to you. There is no single factor in the rising diagnoses of autism or any other chronic ailment. Vaccines, by themselves, are not responsible, nor are heavy metals and on and on.

Just because you feel that several entities lied to you or were less than honest about COVID doesn’t mean that RFK, or anyone who holds what they consider a heterodox opinion, is telling you the truth. He is being even more dishonest. As Sophocles says, time will reveal all. Time has revealed that the COVID vaccine is largely benign. If someone suggests it isn’t, then ask them what is the symptomatology of vaccine injury. That symptomatology will usually reveal some idea about injury patterns at the cellular level. That no one has even broached anything like this should make everyone suspicious of claims about the harms the vaccine caused.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39520 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 5:02 pm to
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Has the cholesterol threat and wonders of statins been (substantially) overstated for a few decades?


You didn’t ask me but I think they are great medications. The newer PCSK9 inhibitors are also really good at reducing CV mortality.
Posted by Placekicker
Florida
Member since Jan 2016
13350 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 5:26 pm to
Posted by Placekicker
Florida
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Posted on 9/6/25 at 5:27 pm to
Posted by Placekicker
Florida
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Posted on 9/6/25 at 5:28 pm to
Posted by Placekicker
Florida
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Posted on 9/6/25 at 5:29 pm to
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37918 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 5:36 pm to
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Where was this energy for our kids’ health over the last decade? More than 75% of Americans now live with a chronic disease.
Over 40% of that number is obesity.
Posted by Placekicker
Florida
Member since Jan 2016
13350 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 5:43 pm to
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Over 40% of that number is obesity


You’re not wrong. Obesity itself is a health risk, not to mention the other conditions that accompany it.

You could make a correlation between our highly processed foods- including breakfast cereals, and our rise in obesity over the last six decades.
Posted by 5WFSHR
Montgomery, AL
Member since Apr 2024
2619 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 5:48 pm to
76 percent of adults in the US have a chronic illness. 76!!!
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37918 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 5:53 pm to
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You could make a correlation between our highly processed foods- including breakfast cereals, and our rise in obesity over the last six decades.
Hell, I'd personally make more than a correlation. I dropped 130 pounds in 14 months by simply switching to 100% whole, unprocessed foods. Ate until I was full and never counted a single calorie. And I've maintained that weight for 10 years by never eating "ultra-processed" crap like fast food or premade/frozen meals. It also eliminated my hypertension and I was able to come off metformin for prediabetes as well. The standard American diet is poison.

eta- And apologies to our board dr's, most of whom I like and respect, but most dr's don't know shite about nutrition. Don't ever assume they know what they're talking about unless they're in a directly related field.
This post was edited on 9/6/25 at 6:06 pm
Posted by Mr Happy
Member since May 2019
2487 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 5:59 pm to
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This will surely enrage the board physicians

I disagree. I've spoke with. A bunch of physicians that are pissed the COVID vaccines were railroaded onto the American people without appropriate safety checks.

Any docs want to comment?
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
31105 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 6:09 pm to
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This will surely enrage the board physicians. Nothing makes doctors more contemptuous than “untouchables” advocating for their own health.

Why would it? We don't make shite off vaccines. IDGAF if people get vaccines or not. I recommend some, but certainly not all and was probably the OG ant-COVID vax. Most doctors I know think their are too many vaccines and not enough data to back up their safety.

I have zero problems with obtaining more info on the safety and efficacy of these vaccines. I had wrongly assumed that they were extensively studied and the side effects well known. I have learned over the years that I was wrong. Mine started with the poison ivy vaccine in the early 2000's.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
31105 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 6:14 pm to
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eta- And apologies to our board dr's, most of whom I like and respect, but most dr's don't know shite about nutrition. Don't ever assume they know what they're talking about unless they're in a directly related field.

Doctors are not dieticians and we receive no education on it in med school. I picked it up on my on. I've been high protein, low carb since the early 90's in college. I felt better and kept my weight down. The no processed food was just intuitive. I spend many summers with my great grandparents on their farm where about everything they ate was grown, killed, made on site.

Would love to homestead. I plan on taking early retirement to do it. I want my grandkids to grow up eating and doing things like I got to do.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
30763 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 6:21 pm to
there were doctors, well respected by their libtard counterparts, who were ruined for speaking out
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