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re: RINO's lining up to sink Trump's Big Beautiful Bill
Posted on 6/28/25 at 3:51 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Posted on 6/28/25 at 3:51 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Roger, it *is* true that you generally favor govt spending when it benefits Alaska.
Where did you come up with this?
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Posted on 6/28/25 at 3:54 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Someone stated it in another thread.
Posted on 6/28/25 at 3:55 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Someone stated it in another thread.
Of course, and you believe the anonymous dipshit.
Jesus christ
Posted on 6/28/25 at 3:59 pm to Night Vision
Trump should come out against the bill now. That will assure its passage.
Posted on 6/28/25 at 4:07 pm to Bunk Moreland
quote:Yes, but him not wanting to vote for Trump's shitty bill makes him a 'RINO' to magatards. Massey too.
Isn't Ron Johnson super based?
Their records are a million times more conservative than any stretch of Trump's career or life for that matter, but they're 'RINO's' because flathead zealots are fricking retarded.
Posted on 6/28/25 at 4:11 pm to blueboy
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Their records are a million times more conservative than any stretch of Trump's career or life for that matter, but they're 'RINO's' because flathead zealots are fricking retarded.
A conservative “voting record” is a lot like finishing the college baseball season with the number 1 RPI and no championship. It’s meaningless if you can’t move conservative legislation into law. Trump has implemented more conservative policies in his terms than any Republican President ever. It’s also why he’s the most popular and beloved Republican President of all time.
Posted on 6/28/25 at 4:12 pm to Riverside
All that means nothing in politics. Trump won big but he's a lame- duck with a small majority in Congress
Which is why he packaged his tax cut renewal (which would have passed by itself) with the pork the GOP wants (which wouldnt have passed on their own) . the megabill may be one of the few things this Congress passes until 2027
In 2026, 2028, these guys names are on the ballot. not Trump.
Which is why he packaged his tax cut renewal (which would have passed by itself) with the pork the GOP wants (which wouldnt have passed on their own) . the megabill may be one of the few things this Congress passes until 2027
In 2026, 2028, these guys names are on the ballot. not Trump.
Posted on 6/28/25 at 4:13 pm to blueboy
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Yes, but him not wanting to vote for Trump's shitty bill makes him a 'RINO' to magatards. Massey too.
Their records are a million times more conservative than any stretch of Trump's career or life for that matter, but they're 'RINO's' because flathead zealots are fricking retarded.
Good, good. Get it all out.
Posted on 6/28/25 at 4:16 pm to Riverside
quote:The BBB is far from conservative, as is sucking Israel dick.
if you can’t move conservative legislation into law.
This post was edited on 6/28/25 at 4:30 pm
Posted on 6/28/25 at 4:19 pm to blueboy
So tax cuts and $2 trillion dollars in spending cuts aren’t conservative? Interesting.
Posted on 6/28/25 at 4:25 pm to Night Vision
RINO?
Why?
Why?
Posted on 6/28/25 at 4:26 pm to geoag58
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With the current make up of congress there is no way to attack the deficit in any meaningful way.
Ever heard of a “veto” before?
Posted on 6/28/25 at 4:27 pm to Night Vision
how many democrats are voting for this great Bill?
Posted on 6/28/25 at 4:29 pm to dnm3305
Your personal finance analogy fails. The U.S. deficit is $1.9T (CBO, 2025), debt $36.2T. Trump’s bill—tax cuts ($4.5T revenue loss, CRFB), tariffs (1.5-2% inflation hike, Tax Foundation), and spending—will balloon the deficit. Historical tax cuts (e.g., TCJA) added $1.9T to debt despite growth. Deportation savings ($100-150B) are offset by enforcement costs. Growth projections (1.8-2.1%, IMF) won’t cover the gap. Blaming RINOs doesn’t change math—deficits rise when revenue drops and spending grows.
Posted on 6/28/25 at 4:31 pm to Riverside
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So tax cuts and $2 trillion dollars in spending cuts aren’t conservative? Interesting.
Going into mid terms with a deficit higher than $2.0 trillion is definitely not.
Posted on 6/28/25 at 4:45 pm to Burt Reynolds
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Opposing the addition of $4T in debt is considered a “RINO”. Lol
We could just call them dumb for thinking this bill actually adds $4t to the debt. That number includes tax cuts, which no self-respecting "small government conservative" should accept as an expense. It also doesn't take into account any economic growth.
Anyone who parrots the $4t number can't be taken seriously. It's more wishcasting than reality.
Posted on 6/28/25 at 4:52 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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If the bill fails, taxes would go up the largest single increase in the history of the nation
Which is why Trump and the Republicans had to hide all the spending in this shite bill. Same old bullshite.
Posted on 6/28/25 at 4:59 pm to Eurocat
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not just the people you call RINOs being assholes.
As you know Euro cat's ilk are far worse than assholes-They're smelly, bleeding vaginas
Posted on 6/28/25 at 5:04 pm to Night Vision
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Rand Paul is also very likely a no unless the Senate removes the debt ceiling increase from the bill.
Rand is such an idiot. The debt ceiling will have to be increased. The alternative is to default on our debt which would be much worse than adding to it. If we don't raise the debt ceiling now, we will have to compromise with democrats to do it in the future. Otherwise, the Republicans become the ones that defaulted on our financial responsibilities. That will do wonders for the midterms.
Rand is giving the democrats more power by being "principled." He is a moron who hurts Republicans more than he helps them. But the "true conservatives" will continue to revere him even while he helps the democrats.
All you "principled conservatives," which democrat policy are you ok with enacting in order to get the debt ceiling raised if we don't do it now? Or do you just prefer to ruin our country's credit and destroy the potential growth that Trump has already proven he can bring?
People like Rand and his supporters are so principled that it makes them stupid. They can't see reality and that some things have to be done whether you like it or not. You can't immediately cut the deficit enough to prevent a default without raising the debt ceiling. But understanding that requires logic instead of emotions and "principles," so they'll be forever hopeless.
The debt ceiling is an obstacle to the MAGA agenda. It will stop any momentum if we don't take care of it now. But that's what the TDS "conservatives" want.
Posted on 6/28/25 at 5:11 pm to TenWheelsForJesus
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The debt ceiling is an obstacle to the MAGA agenda. It will stop any momentum if we don't take care of it now. But that's what the TDS "conservatives" want.
You know how you don't have to worry about a debt ceiling? Cut fricking spending! Drastically! And, I mean actual cuts. Not "reduced rates of growth" bullshite.
You gutless cowards who are always bleating about upcoming midterms are the worst. There is always midterms looming. Country club Republicans have hid behind that boogeyman for decades to justify selling us out. At what fricking point is it ever going to be "the right time" to slash the federal government? Or are you one of those typical GOPers who always fold with 4 aces in your hand before the first wager has even been placed?
This post was edited on 6/28/25 at 7:43 pm
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