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re: Study: Ivermectin doesn't work.
Posted on 2/19/22 at 9:39 am to GumboPot
Posted on 2/19/22 at 9:39 am to GumboPot
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Is there a test to determine how sick the patient is in terms of viral load?
Disease severity is generally determined by whether or not the patient needs oxygen, if so how much do they need and are there any other organ systems involved.
On a macro level viral load can loosely correlate with disease severity, but it’s not a reliable marker. There’s also not a great and easy way of quantifying it especially for most outpatient and hospital labs.
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Posted on 2/19/22 at 10:11 am to smh4wg
Hmmm one study vs hundreds that say otherwise
Posted on 2/19/22 at 10:24 am to smh4wg
There ain’t a study in the world that could convince the frequent flyers here that Ivermectin doesn’t work.
They’d claim the data was falsified, the sample size was too small, the dose was wrong, etc.
It’s pointless.
What is the actual truth? If ivermectin provides any benefit at all it is likely very small, as with every other covid therapy.
They’d claim the data was falsified, the sample size was too small, the dose was wrong, etc.
It’s pointless.
What is the actual truth? If ivermectin provides any benefit at all it is likely very small, as with every other covid therapy.
This post was edited on 2/19/22 at 10:27 am
Posted on 2/19/22 at 11:22 am to smh4wg
Pretty much all research studies discuss the limitations of the study within, as this one does. With limitations known upfront, pretty much all studies call for the need for further studies to flesh out the limitations or add to the body of knowledge in some other way. They seem to have missed that point in their conclusion. Strange.
Posted on 2/19/22 at 11:36 am to the808bass
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He’s not the most stupid. He does lie to himself the most.
No, he’s the most stupid because he has the largest gap between his perceived intelligence and his actual intelligence.
Posted on 2/19/22 at 11:40 am to smh4wg
When I took the Tractor Supply Horsey Paste I accidentally over did it. I’d say I took an 800 Lb dose. Fever was gone the next day, felt good other than mild cold symptoms for a week.
I also took Vitamin C, D3, Zinc and Quercitin.
I also took Vitamin C, D3, Zinc and Quercitin.
Posted on 2/19/22 at 12:06 pm to CatholicLSUDude
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how the heck is this:
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28-day in-hospital death in 3 (1.2%) vs 10 (4.0%) (RR, 0.31; 95% CI, 0.09-1.11; P?=?.09). The
Not statistically significant?
Notice the wide confidence interval (CI). The study was underpowered to show significance in that secondary outcome minus a huge difference.
Posted on 2/19/22 at 12:09 pm to DMAN1968
Find out who funded the study
Posted on 2/19/22 at 12:10 pm to FlexDawg
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Hmmm one study vs hundreds that say otherwise
There really isn't a single reliable & honest study that shows ivermectin as an effective treatment for covid-19, and especially not one with a strong enough effect to overwhelm the dozens that have shown no effect or negative outcomes.
Posted on 2/19/22 at 12:11 pm to Roger Klarvin
Japan has already done a massive study on it and promote it
Posted on 2/19/22 at 12:15 pm to xxTIMMYxx
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Japan has already done a massive study on it and promote it
Link? The Japanese study was showing an effect on inhibition in vitro, which doesn't help much given the overwhelming evidence that ivermectin is useless.
Posted on 2/19/22 at 12:19 pm to BamaAtl
No one gives a frick what a social worker thinks about Ivermectin.
Posted on 2/19/22 at 12:53 pm to Penrod
quote:Link?
Your chances would improve by about 6300%
quote:I guess you'd need to define "extraordinarily rare" vs the "extraordinarily rare" incidence of poor outcome in patients contracting the B.1.1.529 variant.
the side effects are either very mild or extraordinarily rare.
The fact this study was small, targeted only "high risk" patients, did not define Malaysian standard of care beyond vague generalities, included an odd severity of disease end-point, and did not delve further into differences in fatality and/or ventilation, renders the result little more than marginally scientifically useful.
Posted on 2/19/22 at 12:54 pm to smh4wg
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Standard of care is nothing.
Posted on 2/19/22 at 1:01 pm to BamaAtl
quote:So what is your explanation of mortality rates and symptomatic case incidence being significantly lower among the APOC countries compared to non-APOC countries?
given the overwhelming evidence that ivermectin is useless.
Posted on 2/19/22 at 1:10 pm to smh4wg
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JAMA
This study is a hack piece. We have known for months that Ivermectin (and everthing else) is pretty useless once you're on a vent.
The fricking AMA is just as full of shite as the DEA, TAF, FBI, CDC and FDA.
This post was edited on 2/19/22 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 2/19/22 at 1:11 pm to smh4wg
How many of the 480 developed myocarditis or pericarditis?
Posted on 2/19/22 at 1:24 pm to NC_Tigah
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So what is your explanation of mortality rates and symptomatic case incidence being significantly lower among the APOC countries compared to non-APOC countries?
Unclear but likely a combination of robust public health infrastructure, cultural differences, etc. with perhaps a boost from making the population healthier against the main threats resulting in less risk from the pandemic.
But every time ivermectin is studied honestly, it falls flat.
Posted on 2/19/22 at 1:30 pm to BamaAtl
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a combination of robust public health infrastructure
So Angola, Burundi, Cameroon, Central African Republic, Chad, Congo, Democratic Republic of Congo, Equatorial Guinea, Ethiopia, Gabon, Kenya, Liberia, Malawi, Mozambique, Nigeria, Rwanda, South Sudan, Sudan, Uganda, and Tanzania are the envy of the world for their "robust public health infrastructure"?
Posted on 2/19/22 at 1:33 pm to NC_Tigah
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are the envy of the world for their "robust public health infrastructure"?
Not the world, but comparable countries with comparable HDI's (which is how you compare them to look for decreased rates).
Did you think they should be compared against the US? UK? Germany?
Wow.
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