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Posted on 10/4/21 at 10:02 am to Fun Bunch
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More people not getting and never getting it because the vaccinations work would be the best thing.
Well that’s not happening so what is plan B. Covid is clearly hanging around and everyone will eventually get it. The vaccine clearly lessens those impacts especially for those who are old or are not in good physical health.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 10:04 am to STEVED00
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Well that’s not happening so what is plan B. Covid is clearly hanging around and everyone will eventually get it. The vaccine clearly lessens those impacts especially for those who are old or are not in good physical health.
I have already had covid as well. But the best thing is definitely not for "everyone" to get covid.
It may be unavoidable, and covid may (likely) be around in some form or another forever now.
But the best thing would be for as many people as possible to get voluntarily vaccinated, to continue to develop new and better vaccinations AND treatments...
And to move on with our fricking lives and just accept it.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 10:05 am to Fun Bunch
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You really want more people to get a diseases specifically created in a Chinese lab? That doesn't make any sense.
It seems like the cat is out of the bag, and we will all get it.
And it seems to me that if you aren’t in an at risk group, the vaccine and the virus are a toss up as to which you’d rather get.
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we should be much more worried about antibody resistant mutations
So why the push to vaccinate everyone before we know whether this vaccine is causing that?
Posted on 10/4/21 at 10:05 am to Fun Bunch
Pull your head out the sand and get a breath
Posted on 10/4/21 at 10:09 am to Fun Bunch
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But the best thing would be for as many people as possible to get voluntarily vaccinated
Again, according to this theory which seems to be playing out, vaccinating during the middle of a pandemic is putting evolutionary pressure on the virus causing it to mutate into more contagious variants. We've never tried this before in the history of mankind. The possibility that there might be a negative consequence to the response can't be dismissed. It's entirely possible.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 10:09 am to Earnest_P
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So why the push to vaccinate everyone before we know whether this vaccine is causing that?
There's very little evidence that the vaccine is "causing" anything, and again, the study backs up that vaccinations are largely preventing infection.
This boards weird position that the vaccinated are getting infected and so on at the same rate as unvaccinated is currently objectively false.
Your position is that we do absolutely nothing whatsoever and that we just have everyone get covid every 6 months. That is untenable.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 10:11 am to Aubie Spr96
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The possibility that there might be a negative consequence to the response can't be dismissed. It's entirely possible.
I agree and that is something that has been brought up a lot even before we are vaccinating people.
If you still have a large population that is unvaccinated then its going to be allowed to mutate.
Its an area of concern. That doesn't mean we shouldn't be encouraging people to not voluntarily get vaccinated based on the current data.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 10:12 am to GumboPot
Posted on 10/4/21 at 10:12 am to DTRooster
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get a breath
What. I think I'm being entirely reasonable and measured in my responses.
This is not as cut and dry an issue that this board tries to make it.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 10:22 am to Fun Bunch
I really wish things werent so politicized. The people with the ability to influence the scientific community to forget about their grant applications and figure this shite out have gone completely silent on anything non-vaccine.
shite, this virus was engineered by man. It should theoretically be easier to "reverse engineer" than something natural, but no one is allowed to ask those questions without being chased down the street by a purple-haired incel.
shite, this virus was engineered by man. It should theoretically be easier to "reverse engineer" than something natural, but no one is allowed to ask those questions without being chased down the street by a purple-haired incel.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 10:22 am to Fun Bunch
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I have already had covid as well. But the best thing is definitely not for "everyone" to get covid.
You sure? Could we just be dragging it out longer than it otherwise would’ve taken. Reviewing the Rt data was really eye opening. Delta was spreading everywhere at about the same rate no matter the Vax rate.
It we really studied this hard, I think there will be some true findings that we should have adopted the protect the vulnerable approach and allow the rest to get on with it. The numbers if you really look at it are not nearly as devastating as they are made out to be.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 10:25 am to Fun Bunch
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But the best thing would be for as many people as possible to get voluntarily vaccinated, to continue to develop new and better vaccinations AND treatments
Also part of the problem, the treatments were torpedoed before they started. HCQ and IVR were DEFINITELY WORTH A TRY at the dosages thought to work but MSM and Fauci immediately told people not to even try bc it was “dangerous”.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 10:28 am to Tommy Noble
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Imagine taking the experimental vaccine because you were scared of a virus with a 99.8% survival rate
Many are taking it under compulsion so as not to lose their jobs. That’s a different and worse kind of fear.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 10:30 am to STEVED00
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You sure?
No
Posted on 10/4/21 at 10:35 am to Fun Bunch
How do you objectively know that unvaccinated people are getting infected at a much higher rate than the vaccinated?
Since the end of May the CDC has not required infected vaccinated cases to be officially reported unless they are admitted to a hospital.
Since the end of May the CDC has not required infected vaccinated cases to be officially reported unless they are admitted to a hospital.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 10:48 am to Tommy Noble
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magine taking the experimental vaccine because you were scared of a virus with a 99.8% survival rate
Only to find out it made you less safe.
Great you now have resistance to a virus that is now going extinct. But now you are more susceptible to variants that are worse and you are more susceptible to everything else too.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 11:14 am to Fun Bunch
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But the best thing would be for as many people as possible to get voluntarily vaccinated,
That ship has sailed, fella. For alot of people, that option has been taken away unless you want to lose your job.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 11:54 am to Fun Bunch
People that already had COVID aren't getting reinfected very much. You can't say the same thing for people that got the vaccine. Everyone is going to catch the actual virus at some point.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 12:07 pm to GumboPot
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vaxx'd more likely to be infected by variants than unvaxxed
As has already been said, variants aren't variants, they are just side effects. They literally can't show a difference between variants.
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