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Posted on 5/15/25 at 10:36 am to
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 10:36 am to
Alito slapping the table?
Posted by StGeorgeTiger
Member since Sep 2024
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 10:38 am to
Exactly. The nationwide injunctions and how they get it wrong a lot.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10077 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 10:38 am to
Sotomayor teeing it up now....
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 10:39 am to
They are not getting rid of birthright citizenship. That would be a level of judicial activism that any serious conservative would be horrified to see.

The solution here is to amend the constitution. If the votes are not there, then they are not there.
Posted by Rtowntiger
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 10:40 am to
The fact that we have to argue that a District Court in the NW shouldn't be able put an injunction on the whole country is crazy to me.
Posted by High C
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 10:41 am to
I’m at work and can’t follow. Are we getting decisions on birthright citizenship and nationwide injunctions separately, or are the issues tied into one decision?
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 10:42 am to
This is as much about the nationwide injunction as anything else.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 10:42 am to
the guy for the injunction is really going into the weeds of where immigration courts handle the issues he speaks of.

Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 10:46 am to
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If you thought they were going to end birthright citizenship then you will be disappointed, it’s never going to happen


Good. The President took an oath to preserve the Constitution.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 10:48 am to
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This is as much about the nationwide injunction as anything else.


I do think they might put limits on that. They need to. For a district judge to issue a national injunction should be a massive issue in an emergency with a very short time period.
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
6916 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 10:50 am to
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I do think they might put limits on that. They need to. For a district judge to issue a national injunction should be a massive issue in an emergency with a very short time period.



Well, Justice Thomas said as much.


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Posted by cajunangelle
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 10:50 am to
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Imagine the USSS taking each and every case and then failing to hear some of them, so the executive is (*no pun) trumped on foreign and domestic policy he or she commands.

It is nuts. They will then have to do this with each President. The USSS will be the President.

Does she not know there are immigration courts she wants to also trump?
This post was edited on 5/15/25 at 10:55 am
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10077 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 10:55 am to
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I’m at work and can’t follow. Are we getting decisions on birthright citizenship and nationwide injunctions separately, or are the issues tied into one decision?


I think it will only be on nationwide injunctions. I went with the C-Span title which was "Birthright Citizenship," but by half-listening at work, I think the only thing fully briefed is on nationwide injunctions.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 10:57 am to
Jackson sounds like AOC.
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 10:59 am to
Next up immigration attorney
Posted by htowntyger
Houston
Member since Aug 2014
60 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 11:00 am to
I'm not so sure. From seeing Roberts step over Sonia to hearing his remarks about how many times they have to tell district judges I'm optimistic right now - if roberts votes the right way the decision will go the right way
Posted by Floating Change Up
Member since Dec 2013
12973 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 11:00 am to
Dear God.

Just listening to Ketanji Brown Jackson, a member of our highest Judicial System, speak and ask questions for 10 minutes is enough to understand.

Our nation is doomed.

Holy fricksticks that woman is dumb as dirt.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
164375 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 11:03 am to
immigration attorney from some think tank that has full politics of resisting Trump.
Posted by htowntyger
Houston
Member since Aug 2014
60 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 11:04 am to
Agree - that's what they are deciding - birthright citizenship as a constitutional right is a big enough issue on its own - both of these issues deserve to be fully briefed and argued on their own merits - fyi I am against nationwide injunctions and do not believe "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" confers birthright citizenship to non-citizens
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10077 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 11:05 am to
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Next up immigration attorney


I hate to admit it, but I think she is getting the ball over the goal line. District Court nationwide injunctions will remain a thing.
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