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re: Tariffs are taxes on American consumers
Posted on 6/16/18 at 9:24 pm to RebelExpress38
Posted on 6/16/18 at 9:24 pm to RebelExpress38
quote:
What are tariffs other countries impose on us?
Taxes imposed by them on their own consumers.
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Posted on 6/16/18 at 9:25 pm to TBoy
Because the threat of tariffs are what Trump is using to get true free trade. Or have you missed all of the info about what our “free” trade partners are charging for us to export to their countries?
This shite really isn’t that hard.
This shite really isn’t that hard.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 9:25 pm to CollegeFBRules
quote:I completely agree. It functions the same way as a tax, but it is not technically a tax.
Potato / potatO.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 9:25 pm to TBoy
Except we have a choice whether we want to buy the product or not. With taxes we don't. And tariffs by our trade partners are taxes on our businesses and their employees. If tariffs are so bad, why won't our trade partners take Trump's offer of no tariffs and no subsidies?
Posted on 6/16/18 at 9:26 pm to SquatchDawg
quote:
Because the threat of tariffs are what Trump is using to get true free trade. Or have you missed all of the info about what our “free” trade partners are charging for us to export to their countries?
This shite really isn’t that hard.
And if he fails? It is possible that this will not produce a net positive outcome. You do realize this right?
Posted on 6/16/18 at 9:26 pm to Powerman
Trump would have 0 tariffs if other countries did the same to us. Why is this so hard for people to understand? It’s a short term negotiation tactic. We hold the cards economically so we can afford to call these guys out until they play fair.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 9:27 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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People do not pay the tariff tax.
they pay higher prices in the form of domestically produced goods.
The point of a tariff is not to collect money, but to protect specific industries.
Tariffs are not designed to be a funding source. They are designed to get foreign competitors out.
It's a tax by another name. Theft from the people is theft no matter what you call it.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 9:27 pm to TBoy
Interesting, do those tariffs affect our workers or no
Posted on 6/16/18 at 9:28 pm to Powerman
Lol.
Do you really thing that these countries will not negotiate with the biggest consumer market on the planet?
Take a lap pussy.
Do you really thing that these countries will not negotiate with the biggest consumer market on the planet?
Take a lap pussy.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 9:29 pm to SquatchDawg
quote:
Lol.
Do you really thing that these countries will not negotiate with the biggest consumer market on the planet?
Take a lap pussy.
So you're assuming an improved outcome that isn't guaranteed. Not smart.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 9:29 pm to Powerman
quote:
And when did it become the stance of conservatives to be a bunch of protectionist pussies again? I'm forgetting.
It's negotiations. You know this. We're just giving them a little taste of their own medicine. What's so wrong with that?
Posted on 6/16/18 at 9:30 pm to SmackoverHawg
quote:
It's negotiations. You know this. We're just giving them a little taste of their own medicine. What's so wrong with that?
The wrong with that part is the negative consequences it has on American consumers. That's pretty obvious dude.
This post was edited on 6/16/18 at 9:31 pm
Posted on 6/16/18 at 9:31 pm to TBoy
quote:
Why aren’t the anti tax people getting excited about this?
Duuuuude...taxes are tariffs on American people.
Did I just blow your mind or what???
Posted on 6/16/18 at 9:31 pm to Powerman
That’s what a negotiation is....you take a hard line to see what you can get in return.
China is at the table. Canada and Mexico are at the table. Europe is at the table.
Where were we before? Other than being screwed...
China is at the table. Canada and Mexico are at the table. Europe is at the table.
Where were we before? Other than being screwed...
Posted on 6/16/18 at 9:32 pm to Powerman
quote:
And if he fails? It is possible that this will not produce a net positive outcome. You do realize this right?
That's a possibility. Not doing anything could lead to a net negative outcome as well could it not? So, you propose we continue with the current fricking we're getting for fear of it getting worse? I'll take a punchers chance.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 9:35 pm to SmackoverHawg
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Not doing anything could lead to a net negative outcome as well could it not?
By definition the status quo would be a neutral outcome
quote:
So, you propose we continue with the current fricking we're getting for fear of it getting worse? I'll take a punchers chance.
Not necessarily. I'm just saying don't count your chickens before they hatch. This does come with some risk. His tactics will cause some pain albeit probably temporary for American consumers. Let's just hope the outcome is worth it in the end. If it's not then it was just a waste of time.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 9:35 pm to TBoy
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Was responding to starsandstripes which said that the ACA was a tax. That’s his diversion. Probably should have ignored him, but it was so ignorant I felt compelled to answer.
Are you ignorant of the Supreme Court ruling? Can't be.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 9:36 pm to Powerman
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So you're assuming an improved outcome that isn't guaranteed. Not smart.
Assuming a negative outcome isn't smart. Letting people run over you and enrich themselves at your countries expense while you do nothing isn't smart. Especially when you're the one in the strongest position to negotiate.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 9:36 pm to SmackoverHawg
Half of the shite these idiots complain about...death of the middle class...income inequality...no “living wage” ...is a direct effect of our bending to get his globalist agenda, actions of national banks and getting screwed by trade policies.
Damn these people are stupid.
Damn these people are stupid.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 9:36 pm to BBONDS25
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Are you ignorant of the Supreme Court ruling? Can't be.
Right. It was upheld precisely because the mandate was allowed to be considered a tax.
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