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Posted on 2/15/21 at 2:14 pm to
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
17289 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 2:14 pm to
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How are planning to sell the power? Just curious.


The guy I usually partner with in these handles that side. I mostly do the technical diligence and find the capital (tep or other), etc. I’m not in a hurry but I’m sure NRF, A&M or whoever else I pull in can point me in the right direction, DNV usually has some resources too I just haven’t gotten there yet. We’ve been focused on trying to understand the TSRF and grid logistics.

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Buying or selling. If I helped dump any bad tranches on you... it' wasn't pwrsonal. Just business.


selling. I did a bunch of securitization and TEP deals. I’m definitely not on the buying side.

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I'd get your plans on the "the books" in a hurry.


I actually already have an interconnection approval for the wind deal that was approved for this and got blown up. I have zero experience with this happening though but we’re hopeful that we can just use that one or modify it, something to streamline the process.
This post was edited on 2/15/21 at 2:19 pm
Posted by 1loyalbamafan
alabama
Member since Mar 2015
3897 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 2:26 pm to
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Why the rolling blackouts?


Gotta punish Texas for getting out of line.
Posted by McCaigBro69
TigerDroppings Premium Member
Member since Oct 2014
45303 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 2:46 pm to
Power has gone out for a second time. Been out for an hour.
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
9177 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 2:54 pm to
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I see nothing wrong with wind/solar for individual independence but it comes at a very steep price... and makes little sense at scale, generally speaking.


Wind and solar provide nothing but OFF PEAK POWER.

Basic Earth Sciences ...... Sun rises, heats earth, wind blows ....eventually the motors in the wind tower tell the propeller to turn.....Try this again ...WITHOUT Power Production down line ....most often FOSSIL fuel ...there is no wind power.

Same with solar ....no sun ...after peak, ....easy to figure out ....And I have worked with Obama's best, First Solar and the Wind gods ....
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 2:56 pm to
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Ok, so the most important question, what companies(if any) might benefit from this energy issue in the short term?
Thinking stock market plays of course.


It’s too short term.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
81100 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 2:58 pm to
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Wind and solar provide nothing but OFF PEAK POWER.






OFF Peak is 10pm - 6am so Solar almost never provides Off Peak.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
101482 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 2:59 pm to
So will this affect other states energy prices like MS?
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
17289 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 3:04 pm to
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Wind and solar provide nothing but OFF PEAK POWER.


While true for solar and maybe for a lot of wind, you can’t say wind doesn’t peak produce. I’ve sat in the middle of Horse Hollow at 7pm with every generator around me rolling balls to the wall, and that wasn’t a fluke. It’s more normal than abnormal out there. There are plenty of places that just get a shite load of wind.
This post was edited on 2/15/21 at 3:05 pm
Posted by GeauxGutsy
Member since Jul 2017
5913 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 3:14 pm to
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Yikes. Can you even keep the pool running with Temps consistently below freezing like they are now?


Salt water and deep end-yes
Chlorine play pool-difficult
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74070 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 3:31 pm to
In north Spring (Houston, TX)

We haven’t been hit with one of the rolling blackouts yet. We have a newborn, so the anticipation of that happening tonight with record lows.
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
21244 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 4:18 pm to
DeltaLand I should have more info in a bit about the deep south. Mississippi Alabama and Georgia
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
37547 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 4:21 pm to
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Yikes. Can you even keep the pool running with Temps consistently below freezing like they are now? Obviously we don't even try that up north.

It's the only option. We have a tarp and heat light set up but just running the pump will keep the water moving and keep things from freezing. You could run the heater but that would probably be a waste. But you have to keep water moving in the heater or it's ruined. We have a low of 6 or 7 tonight. We've not seen that since we have had the pool. Our pump has been on for 48 hours and have probably another 48 to go. If we lose power, not sure what we will do.
Posted by ImaObserver
Member since Aug 2019
2466 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 4:27 pm to
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But you have to keep water moving in the heater or it's ruined. We have a low of 6 or 7 tonight. We've not seen that since we have had the pool. Our pump has been on for 48 hours and have probably another 48 to go. If we lose power, not sure what we will do.


Open water is getting scarce, have you considered throwing in a few decoys? A hundred or so mallards would keep it open but you might not want to get the water in your mouth afterwards.

Don't think that would work here, we had 26 below last night, warmed up to minus 8 right now and headed back to minus 26 tonight.
This post was edited on 2/15/21 at 4:31 pm
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 4:31 pm to
It doesn’t take a genius to realize that it’s not financially feasible to keep a fully operational supply line ready to mobilize for no reason other than a “maybe”.

The military does it because that’s their job and they aren’t there to be financially solvent.

Power companies aren’t gonna sit around and pay to keep natural gas/oil flowing for no reason other than their wind may not work one day, possibly.

This episode is a stark reminder of the dangers of “renewable” energy.

Once you turn off the spigot, it’s hard to turn it back on when you have an emergency.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
37547 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 4:46 pm to
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Don't think that would work here, we had 26 below last night, warmed up to minus 8 right now and headed back to minus 26 tonight.

Doubt I would have a pool if that was a possibility here. The skimmer and main drain pipes are 2 in diam. The pipes really aren't the concern. It's pump, the robot cleaner pump and the heater. If we lose power, I would probably wrap the pumps, heater with quilts and blankets and hope for the best. The sand filter would probably be OK. Then hope for the best. If the heater bit the dust, I would probably just bypass it and not replace it. We probably don't use it 5 times a year.
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
5098 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 4:50 pm to
Did Biden give chyna access to our power grid?
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
17289 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 4:59 pm to
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Did Biden give chyna access to our power grid?


nah just bad timing and poor infrastructure.
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
21244 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 5:10 pm to
The load is fine in the greater mississippi alabama and georgia markets.
Posted by rb
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
5633 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 5:12 pm to
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So will this affect other states energy prices like MS?
I think the public service commission has to ok rate increases in Georgia. I don’t know how Mississippi works but we’re both part of Southern Company.
Posted by NashvilleTider
Your Mom
Member since Jan 2007
15353 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 5:13 pm to
Californians move to Tx and it immediately goes to shite
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