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re: The Abortion Debate Will Never Be Solved
Posted on 9/29/20 at 4:44 pm to LSUFanHouston
Posted on 9/29/20 at 4:44 pm to LSUFanHouston
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A fetus is not.
Then how are first trimester abortions legal and third aren’t ?
You’re listening to liars, so you are being conned.
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Posted on 9/29/20 at 4:54 pm to RebelExpress38
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They have no legal rights, yet it’s still a crime to kill them
But not if the mother authorizes them being killed, by a medical professional.
Crazy, right?
Posted on 9/29/20 at 4:55 pm to saturday
quote:ok well its too late now but this started when someone said they would call it life if we found a few cells on Mars, so including...
Uh huh...
quote:as a response to my...
"While commonly associated with life, organic molecules also can be created by non-biological processes and are not necessarily indicators of life."
quote:was maybe not the greatest strategy. Unless you did it out of intellectual honesty or something, in which case thank you, youre a good man, no one knows how to argue anymore but you have a code and I appreciate that.
and yet no one says theres life on Mars.
Posted on 9/29/20 at 4:59 pm to RebelExpress38
quote:Why is it a crime? A crime against who/m?
They have no legal rights, yet it’s still a crime to kill them
Posted on 9/29/20 at 4:59 pm to TigerCruise
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If we found a couple cells on Mars we'd call it life wouldn't we?
If I jump purposely jump up and down on a nest of sea-turtle eggs I'm getting fined $25,000 and probably going to jail. Just a clump of reptile cells in an egg.
Posted on 9/29/20 at 5:02 pm to texridder
I guess it’s a crime against nature or society to kill sea turtle or eagle eggs. I really don’t know, all I know is that if you get caught doing either you’re going to jail.
Posted on 9/29/20 at 5:10 pm to LSU2019
quote:by the nature of abortion, it can never be obsolete. There will always be women who are pregnant but really don’t want to be.
ike most everything else, abortion is gonna be settled by science, it'll be made obsolete.
Posted on 9/29/20 at 5:23 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Posted on 9/29/20 at 5:28 pm to LSUFanHouston
The Roe v Wade decision was legislation from the bench. It is a bad decision that was not at all about life or when life begins or when that baby is protected under the law. It didn't argue anything about life and when it began, it was argued that this is a woman's right and the SCOTUS made up a way out of thin air to make this a right.
The court created this right out of thin air. Abortion laws were being established or being established in states, but the SCOTUS felt they should have the power to tell the states what to do. If Roe v Wade is overturned, the abortion debate will then be had at the state level where it should be.
SCOTUS overstepped in this case just like they have in so many others.
The court created this right out of thin air. Abortion laws were being established or being established in states, but the SCOTUS felt they should have the power to tell the states what to do. If Roe v Wade is overturned, the abortion debate will then be had at the state level where it should be.
SCOTUS overstepped in this case just like they have in so many others.
This post was edited on 9/29/20 at 5:31 pm
Posted on 9/29/20 at 5:36 pm to BlackAdam
quote:I think that an embryo is indeed a living organism (separate and distinct from the pregnant woman), but has not yet developed into anything CLOSE to a SENTIENT organism. I do not believe that a non-sentient organism should have legal rights, and as such I am not opposed to terminating the life of such an organism, especially when its continued existence violates the rights of an organism (the pregnant woman) which clearly IS sentient.
I would respect the pro-abortion person who told the truth and said, 'I think some people are less than others, and it is ok to murder those people for convenience.' I would still think they are evil monsters, but at least they would be honest.
close enough?
Posted on 9/29/20 at 6:18 pm to LSUFanHouston
The way I look at it is, if you are the type of person that would kill a baby I’d rather you not reproduce anyway.
Posted on 9/29/20 at 6:45 pm to LSUFanHouston
I am anti abortion but it is our law. I would like to see a State option on abortion. Have a state vote and if the people want it they can say yes or no. I guarantee La would vote against it. Who said getting an abortion has to be convenient?
Posted on 9/29/20 at 6:48 pm to AggieHank86
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I think that an embryo is indeed a living organism (separate and distinct from the pregnant woman), but has not yet developed into anything CLOSE to a SENTIENT organism. I do not believe that a non-sentient organism should have legal rights, and as such I am not opposed to terminating the life of such an organism, especially when its continued existence violates the rights of an organism (the pregnant woman) which clearly IS sentient.
close enough?
Close enough to honesty? No. You are spouting a bunch of philosophy to say tgatnyou aren't for killing a person at all.
True honesty would be admitting you don't care about babies and are fine with them being sucked up with suction tubes and ripped apart.
Posted on 9/29/20 at 7:00 pm to LSUFanHouston
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The Abortion Debate Will Never Be Solved
When one side holds the notion that legally terminating the life of a baby should be held on to as if it were a fundamental tenet and basis of a religion, then no it will never be solved.
Posted on 9/29/20 at 7:02 pm to LSUFanHouston
A human w/ out a heartbeat isn't living.
That's my view.
For a 'person' to exist, they must have their own brain, own beating heart.
I'm for banning or sharply curtailing abortions where a heartbeat is found.
Change my mind.
That's my view.
For a 'person' to exist, they must have their own brain, own beating heart.
I'm for banning or sharply curtailing abortions where a heartbeat is found.
Change my mind.
Posted on 9/29/20 at 7:07 pm to chalmetteowl
quote:i mean yeah, its definitely possible, its a fair point. I might be thinking too far out and making up some CRISPR type scenario that will never exist.
by the nature of abortion, it can never be obsolete. There will always be women who are pregnant but really don’t want to be.
This post was edited on 9/29/20 at 7:09 pm
Posted on 9/29/20 at 7:35 pm to BlackAdam
quote:I wish you could somehow step out of your own body and look at this with new eyes in order to see how astoundingly dumb what you wrote is.
True honesty would be admitting you don't care about babies and are fine with them being sucked up with suction tubes and ripped apart.
It takes my breath away, it really does.
Posted on 9/29/20 at 7:38 pm to AggieHank86
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What is the incentive to negotiate a compromise agreement with an opponent who has no intent to honor it?
This is why I don’t believe leftists.
Posted on 9/29/20 at 8:02 pm to LSUFanHouston
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an idea that is supported by science (up to a certain point in pregnancy, at least).
Science supports they have separate dna.
Posted on 9/29/20 at 8:08 pm to AggieHank86
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we HAVE a definition for that purpose ... birth. Abortion opponents just want to change it.
Okay, so any one that causes a woman to lose her unborn child shouldn't be charged with that.
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