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re: The downside of Youngkin winning
Posted on 10/29/21 at 9:52 pm to goldennugget
Posted on 10/29/21 at 9:52 pm to goldennugget
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goldennugget
Honestly, you sound very disappointed that there's a good chance you're not going to be able to clown and mock the suburban right for losing an election to validate whatever narrative you think makes the most sense.
It's funny but stupid at the same time.
Whenever a liberal democrat loses, especially one as loathsome as Terry McAuliffe losing a race democrats should have no trouble winning, it's a good day for America.
That's worth celebrating and you should be on board for that.
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Posted on 10/29/21 at 11:49 pm to goldennugget
Sometimes the Ds can't stop the run and you just gotta run the ball up the middle with that suburban friendly moderate until they can stop it.
Posted on 10/30/21 at 1:54 am to GMON
On issues like COVID, I'm in favor of a mandate, I think vaccination is perfectly fine, and I think governments are right to take it seriously.
You would give up your liberty? And not care about the liberty of others?
You would give up your liberty? And not care about the liberty of others?
Posted on 10/30/21 at 1:56 am to miracleman
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You would give up your liberty? And not care about the liberty of others?
Government isn't forcibly injecting people. If you don't want to get vaccinated, you can quit your job. I don't see it as 'giving up liberty' when there are plenty of conditions imposed upon employment.
You can also get tested as an alternative to getting the vaccine if I understand the mandate correctly.
Posted on 10/30/21 at 2:04 am to goldennugget
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will try to push a narrative that a milquetoast candidate in 2024 is the key to winning the “suburban women’s vote” or “suburban soccer mom’s vote”
They might try.
But the message back should be that milquetoast didn't beat McAuliffe but rather McAuliffe was so shitty that he lost to milquetoast.
Posted on 10/30/21 at 2:06 am to GMON
quote:bullshite. Segregating people and making it impossible to earn a living, or even purchase food to sustain their families is a pure and uglyt form of coersion. It is literally like Jim Crow on steroids.
Government isn't forcibly injecting people.
quote:Quite the admission of ignorance, though I suspect you’re up to something else.
If you don't want to get vaccinated, you can quit your job. I don't see it as 'giving up liberty
This post was edited on 10/30/21 at 2:08 am
Posted on 10/30/21 at 2:07 am to GMON
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If you don't want to get vaccinated, you can quit your job.
So losing your home and livelihood is a choice? When you are forced to make a choice, it is no longer a choice. Your liberty has been taken from you.
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You can also get tested as an alternative to getting the vaccine if I understand the mandate correctly.
What about those of us that have natural immunity? Aka. antibodies that protect far better than the so called vaccine? Am I also to be mandated to take the vaccine and "forced" to decide to either get vaccinated or lose my job?
Posted on 10/30/21 at 2:14 am to miracleman
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What about those of us that have natural immunity? Aka. antibodies that protect far better than the so called vaccine? Am I also to be mandated to take the vaccine and "forced" to decide to either get vaccinated or lose my job?
Well, as far as I understand it, you can get tested?
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So losing your home and livelihood is a choice? When you are forced to make a choice, it is no longer a choice. Your liberty has been taken from you.
Plenty of people are forced to make a choice on a whole range of topics every day. I choose to go to work every day - I'm forced to get a job and work for example. That is an example of a choice I make.
Companies regularly demand their employees get drug tested. I fail to see the difference here - nobody has to get vaccinated if they can get tested instead.
I don't view drug tests as a sacrifice on liberty and neither do I view covid testing as a sacrifice on liberty either.
Posted on 10/30/21 at 2:18 am to GMON
quote:you should get out more.
Well, as far as I understand it, you can get tested?
quote:Not an equivalent. No one has to ingest things into their body for a drug test. If you’re going to equate peeing in a cup with taking an experimental vaccine we are going to laugh at you.
Companies regularly demand their employees get drug tested.
Posted on 10/30/21 at 2:20 am to goldennugget
He won’t win. He’s going to lose by 5 plus so the narrative can be “ look how much support the administration actually has”
Posted on 10/30/21 at 2:24 am to Taxing Authority
quote:
you should get out more.
So you can't get tested instead of getting vaccinated?
quote:
Not an equivalent. No one has to ingest things into their body for a drug test. If you’re going to equate peeing in a cup with taking an experimental vaccine we are going to laugh at you.
As I've said, you can get tested instead. Why do you keep sidestepping this?
Drug tests and COVID tests are equivalent. That is the equivalence I'm making here.
Posted on 10/30/21 at 2:28 am to GMON
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Companies regularly demand their employees get drug tested. I fail to see the difference here - nobody has to get vaccinated if they can get tested instead.
If you cannot tell the difference, then you sir, are a tyrant.
Posted on 10/30/21 at 2:36 am to goldennugget
You are 100% correct.
Posted on 10/30/21 at 2:39 am to GMON
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Well, as far as I understand it, you can get tested?
I did get tested. I took a serologic (blood) test. I got a piece of paper that says I have both IGM and IGG antibodies. So I have proof that I have antibodies. Getting the vax is no proof that you have developed antibodies at all. You should be the one that gets tested!
I gave blood for convalescent plasma at the Red Cross 6 times (every 2 months) until they quit taking blood for convalescent plasma. They quit because more and more people were getting vaccinated and the Red Cross didn't want vaccinated blood. (This ought to make you go hmmm...) So I actually have 7 pieces of paper proving I have antibodies.
Posted on 10/30/21 at 2:42 am to GMON
quote:In most cases, nope. Pay attention.
So you can't get tested instead of getting vaccinated?
quote:Because in many cases it is not true.
As I've said, you can get tested instead. Why do you keep sidestepping this?
quote:Well if that ever becomes a universal option, you’ll have a fine point, sparky.
Drug tests and COVID tests are equivalent. That is the equivalence I'm making here.
Posted on 10/30/21 at 2:50 am to Taxing Authority
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Because in many cases it is not true.
Well, that's awfully easy to argue now. You've just demonstrated that it exists as an option and therefore IS a choice.
You realize that one can quit their job and work at a job where testing is allowed?
This is a choice.
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Well if that ever becomes a universal option, you’ll have a fine point, sparky.
It doesn't have to be a universal option genius. As long as it remains an option, it's still a choice. People can choose to go to an employer where testing is an option - this is a choice. We choose to accept conditions of employment on a daily basis. If testing is an option in at least one work place, it's still an option and hence vaccines aren't a requirement.
This post was edited on 10/30/21 at 2:51 am
Posted on 10/30/21 at 2:52 am to GMON
You’re such a queer.
Posted on 10/30/21 at 2:55 am to GMON
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People can choose to go to an employer where testing is an option
Assuming that option exists.
And if it doesn't then your 'choice' is a false choice.
It doesn't exist.
Posted on 10/30/21 at 2:57 am to GMON
quote:Holy isht. I'm getting dumber trying to argue with you.
Well, that's awfully easy to argue now. You've just demonstrated that it exists as an option and therefore IS a choice.
quote:Sure. Lots of jobs where one can be a fighter pilot or tank driver. Thoase jobs are ALLL OVER the place.
You realize that one can quit their job and work at a job where testing is allowed?
I mean... why did we have to end segregation? If a hotel wouldn't let you stay there, just go to another one! Lunch counter won't serve you... just go to another one! It's a choice! Good grief.
quote:Now do florists and photographers.
It doesn't have to be a universal option genius. As long as it remains an option, it's still a choice. People can choose to go to an employer where testing is an option - this is a choice.
This post was edited on 10/30/21 at 3:04 am
Posted on 10/30/21 at 3:02 am to Taxing Authority
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Holy isht. I'm getting dumber trying to argue with you.
Yeah, I'm done playing with the NPC.
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