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re: The Myth that Ron DeSantis can win swing states Trump cannot.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 12:23 pm to OchoDedos
Posted on 5/25/23 at 12:23 pm to OchoDedos
That doesn’t explain how he’s going to clean house.
What law can get get passed?
Are their going to be EOs that will be tied up in court.
They are going to Lawfare him to hell and back but worse this time.
What law can get get passed?
Are their going to be EOs that will be tied up in court.
They are going to Lawfare him to hell and back but worse this time.
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Posted on 5/25/23 at 12:24 pm to roadGator
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Jnoles isn’t a leftist though as you suggested.
Just his opinions on election integrity, I guess.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 12:25 pm to BBONDS25
Over a beer I’d bet he’d agree there was some frickery but couldn’t tell you how much. Just like the rest of us.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 12:26 pm to TigerAttorney
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DeSantis voted to cut Social Security and Medicare
I heard this brought up yesterday but isn't the right also pushing not to raise the debt ceiling? You would think they would be on board with cutting two of the largest government programs?
Posted on 5/25/23 at 12:27 pm to boxcar willie
quote:How did Biden get elected then?
Many swing voters won't vote for a guy who lead a coup attempt against the US government
Posted on 5/25/23 at 12:27 pm to FLTech
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The woke woke woke woke stuff he is hammering is not going to convince any liberal to give DeSantis a chance with a vote.
The data (and his own track record) don't support that. The key is you have to tie the culture war issues to an issue that suburban Independents and wine and soccer moms care about. DeSantis won the women vote 53-46 in 2022.
DeSantis has tied CRT into education. A lot of mama bears aren't aware of what they're kids are learning. DeSantis regularly holds press conferences where he reads the disgusting CRT material from books. Heck, a local liberal news channel in Florida cut their feed because Ron was exposing their agenda. He advocates for parents having more input in the education of their children. He did the same thing with all of the perverted books that talk about sex and trans-ing the kids. Mama bears were outraged that their children were reading these books.
Trump is incapable of being articulate enough on this issue to win over voters.
DeSantis tied the Lia Thomas situation with Women's sports. Women don't think it's fair that a biological man gets to compete against them. DeSantis can rifle off the event that Thomas "won" and who came in 2nd and was the real winner. If you asked Trump if he knew what sport Lia Thomas competed in or who HE is, Trump would say no.
DeSantis tied mutilating children with children and women's safety. When the liberal media talks about "Gender-Affirming Care", DeSantis immediately corrects them and says that it's really cutting off the breasts of young girls. Trump isn't capable of being articulate on that issue.
It wasn't just DeSantis, either. Youngkin succeeded in winning over mama bears with the CRT issue.
This post was edited on 5/25/23 at 12:28 pm
Posted on 5/25/23 at 12:29 pm to BBONDS25
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Just his opinions on election integrity, I guess.
Dems took advantage of the election changes during Covid while the Trump team was caught flat footed.
I believe that ballot harvesting was a key to winning, not changing numbers after the fact.
I have ZERO belief in Ronna or the Trump team to have a plan or invest enough money into ballot harvesting to combat what the Dems will do next year.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 12:29 pm to TigerAttorney
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The Myth that Ron DeSantis can win swing states Trump cannot.
Is not a myth.
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Arizona 4/11 - 4/13
DeSantis v. Biden = DeSantis +6
Trump v. Biden = Trump -1
Nevada 4/18-4/26
DeSantis v. Biden = DeSantis -1
Trump v. Biden = Trump -8
Georgia (old poll) 11/28-11/30
DeSantis v. Biden = DeSantis +4
Trump v. Biden = Trump -1
Wisconsin (old) 10/27 - 10/29
Trump v. Biden = Trump -1
DeSantis v. Biden = N/A
Pennsylvania 4/27
Trump V. Biden = Trump -4
DeSantis v. Biden = n/a
Virginia 2/12-2/21
Trump v. Biden = Trump -1
DeSantis v. Biden = DeSantis +5
North Carolina 3/26
Trump v. Biden = Trump -2
DeSantis v. Biden = DeSantis +5
Posted on 5/25/23 at 12:30 pm to Barbarosa
It’s just another lie.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 12:33 pm to TigerAttorney
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Trumps populism brought millions into the GOP. DeSantis social Justice crusades are not going to light a fire under voters that aren’t already going to vote.
This is the correct take.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 12:34 pm to Wednesday
Embarrassing.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 12:35 pm to Wednesday
He just won by the biggest margin ever in Florida for a Republican.
This post was edited on 5/25/23 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 5/25/23 at 12:36 pm to jlnoles79
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****Muh Kemp in GA blah blah…. They can’t spend 400 million harvesting votes every cycle. They pick and choose when to get their vote gathering operation going.
Dems let Kemp win
Ikr. fricking stupidity. There's no candidiate Dems wanted to win more than Shamu.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 12:37 pm to Wednesday
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This is the correct take.
LOL. I love when you try to urge DeSantis to the left as a winning "take".
Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:30 pm to the808bass
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Embarrassing
Why?
I will vote for Desantis in the general vs. Biden if he’s the nominee.
But from a practical standpoint, in a GE his staking his whole campaign on wokeness will not excite persuadable voters. Democrats in partnership with the NAACP have already cast him as a book banning, homophobic racist who is draconian on abortion issues.
I don’t personally believe that he’s any of those things, but I am also not the targeted voters on these issues. His response has basically been - nuh uh.
Desantis doesn’t need to convince people who already agree with him.
He’s had great results and is a great governor - but if we really wants to end the “culture of losing” , we need to acknowledge reality
Posted on 5/25/23 at 2:08 pm to Wednesday
Reality is that he just won by the largest margin ever by a republican.
Think they may translate to other key states? Or no?
Think they may translate to other key states? Or no?
Posted on 5/25/23 at 2:13 pm to boxcar willie
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Many swing voters won't vote for a guy who lead a coup attempt against the US government
I didn't think there were any of you on PT. The fake news is
Posted on 5/25/23 at 2:21 pm to Wednesday
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But from a practical standpoint, in a GE his staking his whole campaign on wokeness will not excite persuadable voters.
I disagree. Similar messages helped propel Youngkin and DeSantis in their last elections. How do you explain Youngkin coming out of nowhere and beating McAuliffe.
DeSantis will focus on other issues like inflation. border, economy. But the "let kids be kids" message will be there also.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 2:38 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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The fact that ANY republican wouldn't be a guaranteed Reagan-Mondale style sweep, given what's currently in the White House, is the thing that should be most alarming to every normal thinking American.
BINGO
This country is gone. we are fighting 4 types of people
1) groomers
2) commies
3) left wing leeches
4) pure unadulterated morons who do not know policy or what is really best for this country
those 4 are what keeps a GOP guy from a landslide like it should be. we are a nation of morons and there is no turning back. unless u educate all these loons.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 2:40 pm to TigerAttorney
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he Myth that Ron DeSantis can win swing states Trump cannot
I know Trumpkins love their polls. What are the swing state polls telling you?
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