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re: The rubicon has been crossed
Posted on 2/14/25 at 9:38 am to Seldom Seen
Posted on 2/14/25 at 9:38 am to Seldom Seen
So, a judge can come in and make a president hand out tens of billions of dollars in “grants“ (that can never be clawed back) and the president is required to do that before he even has a chance to appeal that ruling?
Only SFP could be that fricking stupid.
Only SFP could be that fricking stupid.
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Posted on 2/14/25 at 9:39 am to Seldom Seen
It's amazing a judge thinks they can shut down any function of the Gov they wish. I'll say again it's the 'prove your innocent' first tactic. The power of the judiciary is not omnipotent. Can a lower court judge stop all abortions immediately because he is reviewing why it might be unconstitutional, stop welfare checks without stating why exactly its unconstitutional or stop at once deployment of troops overseas because he's lookin into it's being unconstitutional and they must 'stop at once'?
Posted on 2/14/25 at 9:39 am to Seldom Seen
Hail Caesar we who are about to die salute you
Posted on 2/14/25 at 9:40 am to Seldom Seen
JD is killing it today.
Posted on 2/14/25 at 9:40 am to MMauler
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make a president hand out tens of billions of dollars in “grants“ (that can never be clawed back) and the president is required to do that before he even has a chance to appeal that
It's almost as if the judge is ordering the president to participate in a criminal enterprise.
Does anyone believe that the Constitution gives judges the power to order people to commit crimes?
Posted on 2/14/25 at 9:47 am to wackatimesthree
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Can you elaborate?
I'm inclined to flatly disagree with that statement, but I'm remaining open minded to give you a chance to substantiate it.
I think this does, from Article 3 Section 2. Congress just has to have the balls to invoke it.
"In all the other Cases before mentioned, the supreme Court shall have appellate Jurisdiction, both as to Law and Fact, with such Exceptions, and under such Regulations as the Congress shall make."
Posted on 2/14/25 at 9:49 am to Seldom Seen
quote:Didn't care when Caesar did it, don't care that Trump has done it.
The rubicon has been crossed
Posted on 2/14/25 at 9:52 am to Slevin7
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Didn't they just rule random arse judges can't tell the president what to do with his branch of government?
No they don’t like that ruling so they will just ignore it. But you better not ignore their ruling!!!
Posted on 2/14/25 at 9:55 am to BigBinBR
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No they don’t like that ruling so they will just ignore it. But you better not ignore their ruling!!!
Or they "interpret" a ruling to fit their own purposes.
Activist judges have been doing it with Bruen for a few years now.
Posted on 2/14/25 at 9:58 am to Seldom Seen
The “rubicon” was crossed long ago when so many within the judicial branch became activists and began basically creating legislation through their “interpretations”. The opinion shopping that has been tolerated and cheered is why we are where we are.
Posted on 2/14/25 at 9:59 am to POTUS2024
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The Founders never intended for the courts to be the final say on what is and is not constitutional. There is a reason they didn't give the courts any means of enforcement.
The problem happened when Congress established the lower courts. The Supreme Court itself, is directly empowered to interpret the constitutionality of the acts of Congress and the presidents.
It's the later generations that caused a problem by giving access where it should not have been given.
This post was edited on 2/14/25 at 10:00 am
Posted on 2/14/25 at 9:59 am to Seldom Seen
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The rubicon has been crossed
A Rubicon just drive by my house
Posted on 2/14/25 at 9:59 am to MMauler
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So, a judge can come in and make a president hand out tens of billions of dollars in “grants“ (that can never be clawed back)
THIS.
i thought courts were there to put a stop to things before they take place or the 'cat is out of the bag'.
In what nonsense world can a random judge FORCE payments to foreign entities that we can never ever recover.
Ridiculous. Should be the exact opposite; the whole point of an injunction is to ****PREVENT*** a disputed action while both parties state their case; not force it to happen and then if it turns out to be legit, pay it.
Thats like going to divorce court and the judge saying "ok we are PREVENTING YOU from allowing your spouse to transfer your entire 401k into her personal bank account" and then later when both parties come to court we can see if that was ok or not.
This post was edited on 2/14/25 at 10:02 am
Posted on 2/14/25 at 10:01 am to wackatimesthree
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I'm inclined to flatly disagree with that statement, but I'm remaining open minded to give you a chance to substantiate it.
The original founders of the Confederation of States saw no need for a Supreme court. They saw the State courts as having the authority to deal with anything and everything. It was only some of the Federalists who lobbied for a Supreme Court to rule on Federal things. The 14th and it's incorporation is what fricks things up today.
Posted on 2/14/25 at 10:02 am to CAD703X
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In what nonsense world can a random judge FORCE payments to foreign entities that we can never ever recover.
Don't forget that we have a lower court judge that thinks he can order the destruction of evidence.
The judge that put the TRO against Doge and the Treasury Secretary included a mandate that DOGE destroy their records.
Posted on 2/14/25 at 10:02 am to Cuz413
i mean, let the payments go out.
we can then ask the nice Palestinians to please write us a check and reimburse us if the payment was wrong.
we can then ask the nice Palestinians to please write us a check and reimburse us if the payment was wrong.
Posted on 2/14/25 at 10:07 am to Seldom Seen
These people have been begging for violence for years. Looks like they are getting closer.
Posted on 2/14/25 at 10:13 am to POTUS2024
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The Founders never intended for the courts to be the final say on what is and is not constitutional.
Marbury v. Madison disagrees with you, vehemently.
Posted on 2/14/25 at 10:17 am to wackatimesthree
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...since the Executive branch is the only branch with any enforcement mechanism...
Wrong. Federal judges have the ability to order federal marshals to arrest someone, as the primary role of U.S. Marshals is to execute lawful orders issued by federal judges, including arrest warrants, to support the federal court system within their jurisdiction; essentially acting as the enforcement arm of the federal courts.
Posted on 2/14/25 at 10:18 am to AllbyMyRelf
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A rubicon that has previously been crossed by Jefferson, Jackson, Lincoln, Grant, FDR, Eisenhower, Nixon, and Reagan.
Don't forget slow Joe Biden.
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