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re: The worldwide impact of Christianity- positive or negative?
Posted on 2/10/25 at 9:02 pm to Prodigal Son
Posted on 2/10/25 at 9:02 pm to Prodigal Son
God suffers an agonizing death on behalf of mankind who will believe upon Him and accept that penalty on their behalf in order to reconnect a relationship between God and man, and save man from that same punishment. The only ones deeming that negative are on team Satan. Have to be.
Man, nor man’s institutions or actions deem what is Christ-like. Christ does, and He gave us that example above.
Man, nor man’s institutions or actions deem what is Christ-like. Christ does, and He gave us that example above.
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Posted on 2/10/25 at 9:08 pm to Prodigal Son
Worldwide impact of Christianity: positive
Worldwide impact of Christian denominations: decidedly negative, in some cases.
Worldwide impact of Christian denominations: decidedly negative, in some cases.
Posted on 2/10/25 at 9:11 pm to Rebel
quote:and goat fricking and praising little boy fricking. All the while your women are covered in table cloths and stones to death because they decided to talk.
if not for Christianity, you are mostly likely drawing on the ground with a stick.
Posted on 2/10/25 at 9:24 pm to Squirrelmeister
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What set christianity apart from the other ancient religions was two things: 1. Rejection of other religions 2. Evangelism
Agreed. When you realize that they rejected other religions and evangelized successfully because Christianity is true- you’ll be onto something.
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Other ancient religions were all compatible
You’re conflating apostate Jews and rebellious Jews with the clear teachings of scripture.
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So evangelism and rejection of other religions was able unite a fair amount of peoples that would usher in economic advancement and technological progress. Christianity was able to foster this development
Shoulda stopped right there. That brief moment of honest clarity is something worth exploring.
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I don’t know, maybe Islam?
You’re not taking this seriously.
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Not much, other than that as Islam was an offshoot of a Christian sect,
Islam is a perversion of Christianity. They each make truth claims that cannot both be true.
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I am again speculating but I think Islam could have had the same affect if it had been made the official religion of Rome.
Why didn’t that happen? If it had- what would life look like today, infidel?
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If an LSU forum was constantly discussing the “Truth” of Mohammed being the final prophet of Allah, and I was confident they wouldn’t find me out and cut my head off, I might try to engage them as well.
Well played.
Posted on 2/10/25 at 9:27 pm to tarzana
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Worldwide impact of Christian denominations: decidedly negative, in some cases.
I agree with that. But is that because Christianity is flawed? Or those who practice it?
Posted on 2/10/25 at 9:29 pm to yakster
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Ah yes, Islam. Such a loving, peaceful religion. Anyone who doesn’t believe as they do are infidels and should be eliminated from the earth
1 Samuel 15:3
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Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.’”
Matthew 10:34
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Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword.
Revelation 14:15
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And another angel came out of the temple, calling with a loud voice to him who sat on the cloud, “Put in your sickle, and reap, for the hour to reap has come, for the harvest of the earth is fully ripe.
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Compared to Christianity that calls on us to die to ourselves and love others as Christ loved us. Yes, what a comparison you have there.
Surah 2:195
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And do good; indeed, Allah loves the doers of good
Surah 17:70
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Because all humans are created by God, people should treat each other with honor, respect, and love
Do you understand your own ignorance and hypocrisy on this subject?
Posted on 2/10/25 at 9:32 pm to Squirrelmeister
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Do you understand your own ignorance and hypocrisy on this subject?
Posted on 2/10/25 at 9:43 pm to Squirrelmeister
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Do you understand your own ignorance and hypocrisy on this subject?
Come on, man. You’re not really trying to make a case for Islam. Stop trolling and start thinking about how you’re going to replace the Christianity that you depend on for structure and order in society.
Posted on 2/10/25 at 9:48 pm to tarzana
Pos
Posted on 2/10/25 at 9:48 pm to sabanisarustedspoke
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How many Muslim, Jewish, or Hindu schools and hospitals are running around whatever town you live in?
I live in New Orleans.
Touro Hospital
Isidore Newman School
Delgado Community College
New Orleans Museum of Art
Bestoff Sculpture Garden
Waldenberg Park
come from Jewish charity.
The Jewish Community Centers in uptown and Metairie are the two best open membership recreational facilities in the city.
There are probably a 100 major hospitals in the US with Jewish origins.
Get out of here with this nonsense.
Posted on 2/10/25 at 9:53 pm to Prodigal Son
if you're talking about your goofy as* protestant bullschitt that's 10 minutes old than no, but if you're talking about the catholic church that built notre dame in 1345 than yes it's a positive. any questions?
Posted on 2/10/25 at 9:56 pm to Prodigal Son
More good than bad by far
Posted on 2/10/25 at 9:58 pm to dickkellog
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if you're talking about your goofy as* protestant bullschitt that's 10 minutes old than no, but if you're talking about the catholic church that built notre dame in 1345 than yes it's a positive. any questions?
Wrong thread
Posted on 2/10/25 at 10:26 pm to KiwiHead
quote:Arguably one of the most important events in “modern” Western Civilization.
Thirty Years War
Posted on 2/10/25 at 11:48 pm to Prodigal Son
Overall positive. If you go back in history the Christian religion has had moments of severe violence and bloodshed. Catholics and Protestants were still killing each other into the 1980s Northern Ireland. The inquisition was nasty. But today, churches serve many necessary functions in society. And they do it much better than the government.
Posted on 2/11/25 at 6:02 am to Prodigal Son
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When you realize that they rejected other religions and evangelized successfully because Christianity is true- you’ll be onto something
So if you are logically consistent, you’d also have to believe Islam is true because that religion is growing at a much faster rate not only through birth but also conversions and will surpass Christianity in number of adherents by 2050.
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You’re conflating apostate Jews and rebellious Jews with the clear teachings of scripture.
I know this is inconvenient for you, but if you care about facts, the historical fact is that the original Israelite / Judahite religion was Canaanite polytheism. Those Jews considered themselves proper Jews, and they considered the monotheistic Jews of the late Persian and Hellenistic period as apostates.
“Jesus” even considered those Jews apostates as he is constantly rebuking their teachings and scriptures. The Jews running the temple during the Hellenistic period were considered to be a heavily corrupt and apostate sect by the Jews that eventually became the Christians. They were considered apostate because they rejected the religion of their ancestors in favor of a new version heavily influenced by the Babylonians and Persians with the returning exiles in the late 6th century and 5th century.
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You’re not taking this seriously.
Not my fault you don’t recognize the similarities between Christianity and Islam.
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Islam is a perversion of Christianity. They each make truth claims that cannot both be true.
100% agree with you on that point. But also realize that Christianity is a perversion of Enochian Judaism (NOT Pharisee/Temple Judaism) which itself is a perversion of a bastardized form of Canaanite polytheism centered around Yahwism mixed with a healthy dose of Zoroastrianism.
quote:quote:Why didn’t that happen?
I am again speculating but I think Islam could have had the same affect if it had been made the official religion of Rome.
It was late to the party.
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If it had- what would life look like today, infidel?
Maybe a lot like it is today. Tough to say though. To give you an idea you can find a book on how the Moops ran Hispania before the reconquista. Maybe compare the Ottoman standard of living and way of life to that of Eastern Europe during that time period.
Posted on 2/11/25 at 6:07 am to Prodigal Son
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Come on, man. You’re not really trying to make a case for Islam. Stop trolling
You guys are guilty as I’m the one trying to convey a legitimate message that shows the hypocrisy of the ones on this board calling Christianity all about love and Islam all about killing. Both religions have killing and love in their holy books. They are very similar.
I’m not trying to make a case for Islam, but just trying to get some kind of logical consistency out of the guys on your side.
Posted on 2/11/25 at 6:16 am to Squirrelmeister
You’re doing good work in here. Your only fallacy-there is no god as described by any Abrahamic religion.
God is cruel or not omnipotent.
If god isn’t cruel god can’t be omnipotent. For example natural disasters wiping out swaths of people. That means no great creator.
Why hasn’t god appeared since The Renaissance? People stopped buying into bullcrap. Learned to think. Intelligence prevails over fiction.
God is cruel or not omnipotent.
If god isn’t cruel god can’t be omnipotent. For example natural disasters wiping out swaths of people. That means no great creator.
Why hasn’t god appeared since The Renaissance? People stopped buying into bullcrap. Learned to think. Intelligence prevails over fiction.
Posted on 2/11/25 at 8:40 pm to Squirrelmeister
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So if you are logically consistent, you’d also have to believe Islam is true because that religion is growing at a much faster rate
Don’t force your false dichotomy on me, friend.
Popularity and truth, though compatible, are not mutually dependent. Christianity is not true because we believe it- we believe it because it’s true. quote:
I know this is inconvenient for you, but if you care about facts, the historical fact is that the original Israelite / Judahite religion was Canaanite polytheism. Those Jews considered themselves proper Jews, and they considered the monotheistic Jews of the late Persian and Hellenistic period as apostates.
How’s that supposed to be inconvenient? People have been rejecting God in favor of idols since way before Abraham. The Bible is very explicit about the depravity of man, and the adultery of God’s chosen people.
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Not my fault you don’t recognize the similarities between Christianity and Islam.
The similarities are not the point of contention- it’s the differences that matter in this case.
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100% agree with you on that point. But also realize that Christianity is a perversion of Enochian Judaism (NOT Pharisee/Temple Judaism) which itself is a perversion of a bastardized form of Canaanite polytheism centered around Yahwism mixed with a healthy dose of Zoroastrianism.
That’s certainly one way to look at it. Or, it could be that any influence provided by these pre-existing religions was a necessary component of Christianity; purified and grafted in by the Master Engineer. Depends on one’s bias. Neither position can be proven.
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It was late to the party.
That doesn’t matter. If it were the superior ideology, it would have supplanted Christianity without relying solely on military conquest and reproduction of low IQ followers. Have you ever seen a Christian debate a Muslim?
It’s not even close. quote:
Maybe a lot like it is today. Tough to say though. To give you an idea you can find a book on how the Moops ran Hispania before the reconquista. Maybe compare the Ottoman standard of living and way of life to that of Eastern Europe during that time period.
You’re grasping. How about compare the US to any middle eastern Muslim nation.
The islam argument is crap. And I’m pretty sure you know that it’s foolish to argue that Christianity has been a net negative on society. You’re an atheist. Surely you can articulate how atheism is the superior ideology. Tell me how a worldwide complete shift to atheism is going to propel humanity into the utopian society that Marx dreamed of. Bonus points: Try to do it without stealing your standards and convictions from Christianity.
Posted on 2/11/25 at 8:47 pm to Prodigal Son
I wouldn’t want to live in a world devoid of Christian values and guessing you wouldn’t either.
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