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Posted on 4/26/21 at 9:09 am to
Posted by Fessface
Member since Sep 2019
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Posted on 4/26/21 at 9:09 am to
I think the fact that Bruce turned himself into Caitlin is a side effect of a bigger (mental health) issue. Why would anyone want a crazy person making decisions on behalf of other people?
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 4/26/21 at 9:11 am to
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It’s the economy stupid.


The Democrats ran on social issues. And Biden explicitly promised to raise taxes during the campaign.

The average person doesn’t choose a candidate based on economics. It’s a question of identity and tribalism. Who reflects my culture and values?

That’s the point of the book, What’s The Matter With Kansas? The author was trying to understand why Kansas voted Republican, despite all the social welfare and subsidies the Democrats were promising. In his words they were voting against their economic interests.
This post was edited on 4/26/21 at 9:22 am
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6-- the Brazos River Valley
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 4/26/21 at 9:16 am to
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if Republicans dropped all the religious nonsense they would never lose another election

Not true, but they definitely would win a few more elections. And a few more still if they drop their obsession with opposing pot use and gambling.
Posted by 93and99
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Posted on 4/26/21 at 9:16 am to
Retard
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 4/26/21 at 9:28 am to
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If you don't stand by your values, then you have no values - and that's the GOP.

They're like the Episcopal Church. The church leadership wanted desperately to be liked by modern people, and so they abandoned tradition, and killed the church.
Lima Whiskey always brings the goods.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
164375 posts
Posted on 4/26/21 at 9:31 am to
You are not right in the head if you think embracing Caitlyn is a big no no. the 2000's called and want their politics back. You tend to be more GOPe and you think like the evangelical wing, this way? Why?

Also bet you dollars to donuts that the evangelicals embrace Caitlyn. So why do you care?
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 4/26/21 at 9:38 am to
Posted by Captain Rumbeard
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 4/26/21 at 9:46 am to
If Bruce wants me to call him Caitlyn and dress like a girl I really couldn't care less as long as he's voting MAGA. All this, "Not a real conservative" shite is doing the exact same kind of purity testing the left does with virtue signaling and cancel culuture.

Find something else to cry about that actually matters.

Nikki Hailey is a piece of shite, but not because of this.
Posted by Pecker
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Posted on 4/26/21 at 9:56 am to
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You are not right in the head if you think embracing Caitlyn is a big no no. the 2000's called and want their politics back. You tend to be more GOPe and you think like the evangelical wing, this way? Why?

Also bet you dollars to donuts that the evangelicals embrace Caitlyn. So why do you care?


This mindset is why conservatives are currently battling transgender rights for children. It's why Sam Francis called conservatives "beautiful losers." The right is constantly making concessions and allowing themselves to be pulled further left. 10 years ago we were told "it's just gay marriage, don't be a bigot." Now we're being told that men are women and that if you oppose this you're an evangelical bigot. There's nothing puritanical about not wanting 1st graders taught that they can be any gender they want to be.

Republicans are currently running on platforms that would have been too extreme for democrats in 2008. Obama won on a platform that said marriage was for one man and one woman. Image that. Now imagine where we'll be in 2032.
This post was edited on 4/26/21 at 10:07 am
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 4/26/21 at 10:01 am to
By that point you’ll be able to marry a sex doll, and claim it as a spouse on your taxes.

Thats our creepy future.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
45270 posts
Posted on 4/26/21 at 10:13 am to
Jenner has always been a staunch conservative.
That’s all I care about.
He can wear all the lingerie he wants; no skin off my nose.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 4/26/21 at 10:23 am to
I don’t know what your specific policy preferences are, but let’s look at low taxes.

Southern states had lower taxes because we had a culture of personal responsibility, and because we believed that charity was a community obligation.

When your neighbor gets sick, you help out. That’s your role, not the governments.

This is rooted in culture and ultimately religion. They were values cultivated and sustained by our churches. If you don’t defend the culture and the faith. You lose those policies. You end up shifting to a high tax, high service model.
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 4/26/21 at 10:26 am to
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In what reality is transgenderism conservative? It’s quite literally the antithesis of conservatism because conservatism is about traditional, religious, and family values.



Conservatives can be mentally ill also.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
101560 posts
Posted on 4/26/21 at 11:12 am to
To be fair Jenner is a republican and has many conservative views.

Haley is a RINO in many ways but we shouldn’t reject people who vote GOP because they are different than traditional GOP voters.

Demographics are a problem for us. We gotta drop the social shite and focus on freedom, the economy, and keeping China and our radical left in check.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35823 posts
Posted on 4/26/21 at 11:15 am to
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the same reality that autism, anorexia, depression, bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, claustrophobia, etc. are conservative (or liberal). Gender dysphoria isn't conservative. It is not liberal. It is a mental disorder.

When someone gets their genitals surgically altered, they aren't playing footsie with cross-dressing and effeminism. They suffer perceptive dysmorphia in the same way an anorexic looks in the mirror and sees a fat person. It is a rare, but real and significant problem.

In severe instances, like Jenner, it was simply an unfortunate fact of his existence. It was as unchangeable for him as other genetic predispositions are for the rest of us. The question is whether ostracisation is the proper response.

IMO differences with progs should not reside in tolerance of those truly afflicted. It should reside in not forcing transgenderism on preadolescent kids. Teaching transgenderism and forcing it on prepubescent kids is not conservative. It is "progressive" whereas it should be criminal. That is a bright line between progressives and others.

Likewise, the forcing of women to allow strange men into their public restrooms, showers and dressing rooms is considered "progressive". It should be considered criminal.

The forcing of females to compete athletically against males under auspices of "inclusion", actually "excludes" women who would otherwise enjoy thrills of victory, achievement, and the life-lessons and confidence those results might bring. It is antifemale, and progressive.

An assignment of "racism" based on solely on the fact one's skin color is white, and one's hair color is blonde, is not only classically ironical, it is progressive.

Such areas of low-hanging are the ones we need to pursue.


Well said.
Posted by Aced
Member since Jul 2013
1672 posts
Posted on 4/26/21 at 11:46 am to
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This mindset is why conservatives are currently battling transgender rights for children. It's why Sam Francis called conservatives "beautiful losers." The right is constantly making concessions and allowing themselves to be pulled further left. 10 years ago we were told "it's just gay marriage, don't be a bigot." Now we're being told that men are women and that if you oppose this you're an evangelical bigot. There's nothing puritanical about not wanting 1st graders taught that they can be any gender they want to be. Republicans are currently running on platforms that would have been too extreme for democrats in 2008. Obama won on a platform that said marriage was for one man and one woman. Image that. Now imagine where we'll be in 2032.


It’s amazing you can still fight this culture war battle after the Republican Party has lost north of 90% of blacks, 70% of Asians, 65% of Hispanics and 90% of gays. These issues do literally nothing to improve your life and yet this is the hill you are going to die on. The party hasn’t won the popular vote in a national election since 2004. You can make a reasonable likely popular point about the ethics of transitioning a child while not being bigoted against someone who made the conscious decision to transition as a willing adult over decades.
This post was edited on 4/26/21 at 11:51 am
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
27438 posts
Posted on 4/26/21 at 11:58 am to
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We gotta drop the social shite and focus on freedom


Easy to say but it's a meaningless platitude.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 4/26/21 at 12:31 pm to
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In what reality is transgenderism conservative? It’s quite literally the antithesis of conservatism because conservatism is about traditional, religious, and family values.


As long as it comports with YOUR religious views? What a crock of shite.

Conservatism SHOULD have ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with Religion.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 4/26/21 at 12:33 pm to
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It’s amazing you can still fight this culture war battle after the Republican Party has lost north of 90% of blacks, 70% of Asians, 65% of Hispanics and 90% of gays. These issues do literally nothing to improve your life and yet this is the hill you are going to die on. The party hasn’t won the popular vote in a national election since 2004. You can make a reasonable likely popular point about the ethics of transitioning a child while not being bigoted against someone who made the conscious decision to transition as a willing adult over decades.



THIS!!!

Homophobia and bible thumpers are the reason for the demise of the Republican Party. Rep needs to steer clear of social issues. Abortion is a legal issue in my mind.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 4/26/21 at 12:37 pm to
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We gotta drop the social shite and focus on freedom


Our pro freedom policies are the product of cultural and ultimately religious values.

You can’t maintain them without the cultural they come from.
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