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re: This “Peace Plan” Rewards Bad Behavior, Which is Exactly How We Got Here to Begin With
Posted on 11/23/25 at 11:15 am to RFK
Posted on 11/23/25 at 11:15 am to RFK
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ANY Secretary of State operating objectively would demand, at a minimum:
On Crimea... the Crimeans weren't exactly pleased with their status quo wrt Ukraine.
Let the Crimeans choose, not us, not Ukraine, not Russia.
Ukraine shouldn't get squat.
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Posted on 11/23/25 at 11:15 am to RFK
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RFK
Desperate to keep your weird proxy war against Trump going
Posted on 11/23/25 at 11:16 am to NC_Tigah
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This “Peace Plan” Rewards Bad Behavior
and the lack of a Peace Plan rewards bad behavior.
Should be none of our business.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 11:17 am to RFK
The US' peace plan should be:
Z, we're the frick out in 14 days. No money. No support. No humanitarian aid. Not a fricking dime.
Make your best deal possible.or get the EU to bankroll you, because in 2 weeks you're on your own.
Z, we're the frick out in 14 days. No money. No support. No humanitarian aid. Not a fricking dime.
Make your best deal possible.or get the EU to bankroll you, because in 2 weeks you're on your own.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 11:18 am to RFK
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The fact he cowers to Russia is embarrassing, and indicates something else is afoot. That’s my take, anyway.
This time, this time you’ve got him.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 11:19 am to RFK
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This “Peace Plan” Rewards Bad Behavior, Which is Exactly How We Got Here to Begin With
No.
We got here because the globalists at state and CIA ran a color revolution to secure resources in Ukraine and ultimately push NATO to Russias borders and provoked a regional war we couldn’t win without direct kinetic involvement.
The peace deal reflects our unwillingness to do so and many years of refusal to accept peace terms at previous inflection points that would’ve resulted in a far better outcome for the pro-US Ukranian state.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 11:23 am to RFK
quote:Poe
Is that Milton?
Posted on 11/23/25 at 11:25 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Should have been ...
Should be none of our business.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 11:26 am to NC_Tigah
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Should have been ...
Still should. We could easily walk away now.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 11:33 am to RFK
The plan stops ALL the bleeding. And the US is footing the bill.
frick that. Take the deal and live in peace, ffs
frick that. Take the deal and live in peace, ffs
Posted on 11/23/25 at 11:33 am to SloaneRanger
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Uh, the aggressor in 2014 wasn’t who you think it was.
Did it have anything to do with Barry Soetoro's 3 executive orders that dealt with Ukraine, and Joe's 3 trips over there, all in 2014?
This post was edited on 11/23/25 at 11:43 am
Posted on 11/23/25 at 11:35 am to RFK
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Both sides are guilty of it.
Dumbest people in the world use the "both sides" excuse
Posted on 11/23/25 at 11:49 am to Turbeauxdog
quote:How blessed we are to be graced with the company of an oracle.
Dumbest people in the world use the "both sides" excuse
What are your thoughts on the 28-point peace plan?
Posted on 11/23/25 at 11:58 am to RFK
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What are your thoughts on the 28-point peace plan?
axios article detailing plan
1-4 yes
5-6 don't like it
7-10 yes
11 not our issue, so whatever
12- it looks messy
13- fine
14- fine
15-16 cool
17-18 stupid
19- good
20- fuggin retarded
21-28 solid
This post was edited on 11/23/25 at 12:00 pm
Posted on 11/23/25 at 12:03 pm to RFK
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Obama and NATO are as responsible for Russia’s 2022 invasion as anyone. They failed to properly counter Russian aggression in 2014 and Putin is only going to take advantage of the West. Again.
Rubio is already going out of his way explaining the proposal. I always said he was one of the smartest cabinet members in this administration, but this “plan” shows he is kowtowing with no independent analysis. Now he’s claiming “this is just the starting point.”
No peace plan can ever succeed without Ukraine’s endorsement. And I wouldn’t even concede this is a reasonable starting point if I was Z.
Putin busted a move because the West showed weakness. When Jotato was installed as POTUS and displayed absolute incompetence on the world stage in Afghanistan....it was then Putin knew he could have his way with Ukraine. Putin played a game of geopolitical chess and he had the West and Jotato checkmated in less than 18 months after Jotato's illegitimate regime took control of the US.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 12:06 pm to RFK
Question: why has the Ukraine never put forward a piece plan for us to pick apart?
Posted on 11/23/25 at 12:07 pm to I20goon
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Question: why has the Ukraine never put forward a piece plan for us to pick apart?
Posted on 11/23/25 at 12:09 pm to RFK
The United States and Great Britain took out a duly elected Ukrainian president in 2014. Fact.
Russia invaded as a result.
Russia invaded as a result.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 12:15 pm to RFK
Let the Euros fix it and pay for it.
Trump has to be involved because they cannot and left to their own devices, they would frick us over every chance they get.
I believe we should be as dishonest in our dealings with them as they have been with us.
Trump has to be involved because they cannot and left to their own devices, they would frick us over every chance they get.
I believe we should be as dishonest in our dealings with them as they have been with us.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 12:27 pm to RFK
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I have no political messiah
Says the dude posting under the name RFK
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