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re: This “Peace Plan” Rewards Bad Behavior, Which is Exactly How We Got Here to Begin With
Posted on 11/23/25 at 12:29 pm to RFK
Posted on 11/23/25 at 12:29 pm to RFK
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Trump was willing to show strength with Iran and it paid off.
The fact he cowers to Russia is embarrassing, and indicates something else is afoot. That’s my take, anyway.
Your left buddies would then complain about war. Ukraine is not worth getting in a war with Russia.
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Posted on 11/23/25 at 12:29 pm to I20goon
quote:Well done.
Question: why has the Ukraine never put forward a piece plan for us to pick apart?
Posted on 11/23/25 at 12:33 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
He’s another mole poster. “Voted for Trump 60 times” and spews left wing nonsense 75% of the time.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 1:01 pm to Jbird
My point is that failure to adequately oppose Putin in the past, doesn’t excuse his acts of aggression today, but you know that.
If I forget to lock my door, is a thief who steals my stereo entitled to go free?
If I forget to lock my door, is a thief who steals my stereo entitled to go free?
Posted on 11/23/25 at 1:04 pm to RFK
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RFK
Yo, homie... I told you what I thought of the 28 points... now tell me why you disagree with the whole thing.
I don't think you read it... there's a little something in there for everyone.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 1:06 pm to tide06
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We got here because the globalists at state and CIA ran a color revolution to secure resources in Ukraine and ultimately push NATO to Russias borders and provoked a regional war we couldn’t win without direct kinetic involvement.
The peace deal reflects our unwillingness to do so and many years of refusal to accept peace terms at previous inflection points that would’ve resulted in a far better outcome for the pro-US Ukranian state.
If Russia had placed a puppet in Mexico, had them slaughter expats in Mexico (ie what was done in Donbas) then weaponize Mexico, give them the targeting tech and start attacking the US......we would have a nuclear war.
Putin has shown great restraint, and Trump realizes this.
You cant negotiate what has already happened, you negotiate where we are right now. Its very fair, the only thing Russia does not have is the remaining part of the Donbas. Let this linger and they will have it and Odessa and ukraine will be landlocked.
Without the US they are fcked. Europe cant supply them and they certainly dont have the targeting tech etc. Europe has reneged on NATO for 60 years, you think they will follow through on all the nonsense they promised? How about all the green funding to the UN? They are welches on any deals.
zelensky wont sign any deal that calls for an election cause he knows the results and dont give me some bullshite poll from some newspaper funded by USAID
And who is gonna repay Russia? You do realize they took those assets and backed it with a US not Europe a US guarantee, a gift from the biden adm on the way out the door.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 1:10 pm to RFK
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This “Peace Plan” Rewards Bad Behavior
I guaranty with a little behind the election meddling and a mass of military equipment on the Ukraine and new Russian border all of Ukraine will be Russia in a decade. DJT will be gone.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 1:14 pm to RFK
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This “Peace Plan” Rewards Bad Behavior, Which is Exactly How We Got Here to Begin With
Has there been a single US foreign policy since WWII that hasn’t lead to more death and destruction?
Posted on 11/23/25 at 1:17 pm to trinidadtiger
Exactly. If Russia or China ran a coup in Mexico, then staged a dozen intel bases on the border, we probably would have started world war over it.
This is just an example of some of the meddling.
This is just an example of some of the meddling.
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Posted on 11/23/25 at 1:20 pm to VOR
Lol how did he take Crimea?
I stand by my comments in the past.
I hope both corrupt countries bleed out.
I stand by my comments in the past.
I hope both corrupt countries bleed out.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 1:33 pm to RFK
exactly our bad behavior for installing a puppet regime in ukraine, and expanding NATO when we promised russia we wouldn't seriously dude i need that oil filter that's a toyota highlander!
Posted on 11/23/25 at 1:38 pm to dickkellog
The Putin apologists are all the same with muh NATO expansion.
1. Ukraine had no realistic or imminent path to NATO membership before the invasion, making the “threat” an invalid pretext to invasion.
2. NATO is a defensive alliance with no history of aggression toward Russia; expansion was driven by Eastern European nations seeking protection from Russia, not the other way around.
3. Putin’s invasion stems from imperial ambitions and fear of Ukraine’s democratic example, not NATO expansion, as evidenced by his earlier actions without NATO triggers.
There’s your history lesson.
1. Ukraine had no realistic or imminent path to NATO membership before the invasion, making the “threat” an invalid pretext to invasion.
2. NATO is a defensive alliance with no history of aggression toward Russia; expansion was driven by Eastern European nations seeking protection from Russia, not the other way around.
3. Putin’s invasion stems from imperial ambitions and fear of Ukraine’s democratic example, not NATO expansion, as evidenced by his earlier actions without NATO triggers.
There’s your history lesson.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 1:49 pm to RFK
What about Russia's point of view that matters, you have a whole coalition whos sole purpose is to counter your country's interest literally on your borders. How u think we would respond in that scenario
Posted on 11/23/25 at 1:57 pm to RFK
i didn't ask you for a history lesson boy, i asked you for an oil filter for a toyota highlander, NAPA's not paying you to post on the poli board.
Posted on 11/24/25 at 4:11 pm to RFK
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What are your thoughts on the 28-point peace plan?
Ukraine is lucky they get to keep their existing land.
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