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re: Tina Peters sentenced to 9 years in Colorado state prison.
Posted on 10/3/24 at 3:40 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 10/3/24 at 3:40 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Do you consider unauthorized access of government databases to be a crime?
a crime deserving 9 years? Hell no.
For the purpose of preserving a backup of the server? Hell no.
Now, if she were bringing someone in to manipulate the server in a way to destroy data, manipulate date to falsely claim fraud, or change the results of the election? Hell yes.
But, to my knowledge, all she did was back up the system because the state was trying to install an update that would have destroyed the election data (an actual crime).
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 3:41 pm to homesicktiger
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Guess who didn't post in that thread you linked.
I know there's a meme about it but I actually do not post in every thread. And my stance on criminal Justice reform, universal, criminal justice reform, is well known and often stated
Posted on 10/3/24 at 3:42 pm to moneyg
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For the purpose of preserving a backup of the server? Hell no.
By a third party, correct?
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But, to my knowledge, all she did was back up the system because the state was trying to install an update that would have destroyed the election data (an actual crime).
The story says she permitted access of the data to a third party (someone associated with pillow man).
Posted on 10/3/24 at 3:43 pm to lsuconnman
quote:Guccifer (Clinton hacker) got 52 months.
I don’t think people question the conviction. In the age of “criminal justice reform” it’s hard to square 9 years for access badge crimes in the hierarchy judicial punishment. But, I think you already knew that.
Uddin, who laundered $19.6 mil. Via hacking and badge acces got 48 months.
Posted on 10/3/24 at 3:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
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It was wrong when the IRS agent leaked Trump's info and it's wrong here.
That was done with the purpose to harm someone.
An analogy would be someone accessing files they should access in order to preserve them from being destroyed.
Show me where she manipulated the systems for an ill intent. If you can do that, I'll agree that she needs to be in jail.
Giving access to a system to preserve its data shouldn't be a crime. And, if she had to do that because the SOS / IT Dept. wouldn't do it themselves, I'd suggest that her giving someone else access was her responsibility.
Posted on 10/3/24 at 3:46 pm to oklahogjr
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Allowing unauthorized people to use government systems is a major risk to elections. Total dereliction of duty here and very shameful.
I actually agree with you. Sounds like you believe it would be equally dangerous if it were demonstrated in open court just how porous these "security" measures are and how pretty much anyone with knowledge of the default user ID and logins could manipulate the databases before they were ever received by the various election authorities....
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 3:48 pm to loogaroo
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county clerk who espoused the false conspiracy theory that former President Donald Trump lost the 2020 election due to ballot fraud
These gaslighting, lying motherfrickers know it happened... Or else they wouldn't be so defensive about it.
Posted on 10/3/24 at 3:50 pm to SlowFlowPro
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By a third party, correct?
Third party IT Contractors are used all of the time. It's not uncommon at all.
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The story says she permitted access of the data to a third party
She backed up the data. That's what I understand. She didn't go sell it for monetary gain (to my knowledge). She didn't manipulate the data to for nefarious purpose.
She brought in an IT expert to take an image of the server.
If you can show I'm wrong, please do. I'll change my opinion.
Posted on 10/3/24 at 4:01 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I know there's a meme about it but I actually do not post in every thread.
Number of posts: 433036
Posted on 10/3/24 at 4:02 pm to loogaroo
When Trump wins he’ll pardon her.
Posted on 10/3/24 at 4:07 pm to OGTiger
quote:state charges, can't.
When Trump wins he’ll pardon her.
However he should absolutely make flipping the state gov't of CO back to red his pet project. Money, endorsements, prosecutions, put Liz Cheney in a cage with a bullhorn and put the cage in Boulder, etc.
Then get the new red governor to commute her sentence.
Posted on 10/3/24 at 4:20 pm to oklahogjr
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Makes sense. Allowing unauthorized people to use government systems is a major risk to elections. Total dereliction of duty here and very shameful. Judge gave her half of what she could a got. Prosecution asked for 20 years which is pretty extreme.
She could’ve killed someone and received a shorter sentence.
Posted on 10/3/24 at 4:22 pm to riverdiver
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She could’ve killed someone and received a shorter sentence.
Or none at all if she was an illegal.
Posted on 10/3/24 at 4:27 pm to Mandtgr47
There is no debate with him because his mind is shut tighter than the Epstein client list. He thinks he can argue his way out of being dead wrong, biased, or naive… or simply post forever and declare himself the winner after everyone else gets bored and bails.
I must admit I do enjoy messing with him.
I must admit I do enjoy messing with him.
Posted on 10/3/24 at 4:35 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Do you consider unauthorized access of government databases to be a crime?
I do, but I also think a 9 year sentence for what she did is unreasonable and barbaric
Posted on 10/3/24 at 4:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
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He was convicted and got 5 years
The judge also gave him 3 months to report to serve his sentence. Tina Peters was taken straight to jail after her sentencing
He also stole the IRS files of over 50,000-70,000 people, yet the DOJ only charged him with one count. That's why the judge gave him the max sentence and said as much at sentencing. It was the largest data breach in the history of the IRS
Posted on 10/3/24 at 5:07 pm to Vacherie Saint
He’s a giant idiot fig.
He’s everything wrong with America. I couldn’t have more disdain for him if I practiced at it every day.
He’s everything wrong with America. I couldn’t have more disdain for him if I practiced at it every day.
Posted on 10/3/24 at 5:09 pm to SlowFlowPro
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If I bring the topic up in different contexts they call me a leftist, so they aren't sincere about the issue.
You’re such a shell game player. Dishonesty is the closest you get to the word honesty.
Posted on 10/3/24 at 5:11 pm to the808bass
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He’s a giant idiot fig.
He’s everything wrong with America. I couldn’t have more disdain for him if I practiced at it every day.
Runs his mouth hiding behind a screen.
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