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Posted on 1/17/19 at 9:36 am to cahoots
An OPEN BORDER "affects things" too; far more damaging than the shut down that focuses public attention on an issue that - if not addressed - will result in the "fundamental change" to Global Democratic Authoritarian Socialism. That is the issue at hand.
"Big, beautiful Door".
"Big, beautiful Door".
Posted on 1/17/19 at 9:40 am to cahoots
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I feel like you are missing the point of the thread.
Seems like you are missing the point of your own thread. Most Americans are not noticing anything. It is only those who are Government Employees/Contractors and people who are on various government programs that are noticing anything. This shutdown is showing us what a laughingstock the government actually is. Sure, there are some essential parts of government but there is also a lot of waste and bloat that Americans can go without.
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The government is involved in the private sector for better or worse.
Depends on your line of work and industry. Smart individuals won't be handcuffed to the Government.
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Therefore, companies are being affected.
The majority are not.
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And GDP will be affected
Yes in industries that solely rely on the government teet.
Posted on 1/17/19 at 9:48 am to Centinel
quote:True, but here's the hackiest part of all.
It will also be the latest sign suggesting that Trump thinks he’s losing the fight.
Then they add this shite, knowing the above.
Hacks gonna hack though.
quote:Gotta keep the sheople fighting left vs. right.
it will be a rare moment of bipartisan agreement
Posted on 1/17/19 at 9:58 am to cahoots
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I mean, yeah, a few days is not noticeable. But a month?
What do you remember about the bad things that happened when Clinton shut the government down for 44 day in a 2 month span...or are the memories too difficult to relive?
Posted on 1/17/19 at 9:59 am to Jake_LaMotta
I’m getting your corporate jet safely to its destination. Pay me on time.
TSA and air traffic will work a tremendous amount of people and planes for the Super Bowl. Crazy idea. Pay them for it. Pay em on time, too.
TSA and air traffic will work a tremendous amount of people and planes for the Super Bowl. Crazy idea. Pay them for it. Pay em on time, too.
Posted on 1/17/19 at 10:00 am to cahoots
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I would be in favor or reopening the government in whatever way possible.
How have you or anyone you know been affected so far?
This post was edited on 1/17/19 at 10:05 am
Posted on 1/17/19 at 10:01 am to cahoots
Got to hold out till Snap is no more, then everything is possible
Posted on 1/17/19 at 10:03 am to cahoots
quote:The oil has been there for a few million years. It can wait for a few more weeks.....
O&G companies aren't getting permits.
quote:Does that mean we are in danger of running out of beer?
Breweries aren't getting approvals.
quote:Worth it....
Even the Trump admin is officially indicating that economic growth will be harmed.
Posted on 1/17/19 at 10:04 am to 257WBY
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TSA
Useless and needs to be abolished.
Posted on 1/17/19 at 10:06 am to cahoots
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I mean, yeah, a few days is not noticeable. But a month? O&G companies aren't getting permits. Breweries aren't getting approvals. Lots of other regulatory holdups multiplied by an entire economy. Even the Trump admin is officially indicating that economic growth will be harmed. Should these things be held up by government? Arguably not. But they are.
The long term benefits by slowing the tide of low skilled workers GREATLY outweighs any short term decline.
Posted on 1/17/19 at 10:13 am to TrueTiger
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My life hasn't changed one bit
OK, but you live in your mom's garage and spend most of the day surfing the net and playing video games whilst drinking copious amounts of Morning Dew and eating pizza rolls ......so ......... your experience with all of this is not all that infomed
Posted on 1/17/19 at 10:15 am to cahoots
So what this shutdown has shown me is this: Contractors can do work a HELL of a lot more effectively and efficiently than the government can. Farm some of that work out to the private sector with MINIMAL government oversight.
Posted on 1/17/19 at 10:16 am to cahoots
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O&G companies aren't getting permits
BP had $3.8 billion in profit for Q3/18
O&G can afford to bankroll their workers for a few months
Posted on 1/17/19 at 10:18 am to cahoots
None of those things should depend on the government to happen in the first place.
Posted on 1/17/19 at 10:20 am to oogabooga68
I'm concerned that breweries not getting approved is the second thing that came to your mind.
Posted on 1/17/19 at 10:26 am to cahoots
Maybe Pelosi and the House Democrats should pass a bill.
The last GOP House did.
Then the Senate Democrats filibustered it in the Senate.
Hell, Pelosi has already signaled her determination to keep the shutdown alive and well to at least the State of the Union.
All because Democrats refuse to give Trump 1/10th of a cent on the budget dollar!
Democrats are now 1/10th of a penny wise, but a dollar foolish.
The last GOP House did.
Then the Senate Democrats filibustered it in the Senate.
Hell, Pelosi has already signaled her determination to keep the shutdown alive and well to at least the State of the Union.
All because Democrats refuse to give Trump 1/10th of a cent on the budget dollar!
Democrats are now 1/10th of a penny wise, but a dollar foolish.
Posted on 1/17/19 at 10:29 am to cahoots
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mean, yeah, a few days is not noticeable. But a month? O&G companies aren't getting permits. Breweries aren't getting approvals. Lots of other regulatory holdups multiplied by an entire economy. Even the Trump admin is officially indicating that economic growth will be harmed. Should these things be held up by government? Arguably not. But they are.
The regulations should be eliminated today.
Posted on 1/17/19 at 11:06 am to TrueTiger
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You're making an argument for getting rid of those regulations altogether.
No, he is not. Safety and protection of the environment is something that has been demonstrated time and again that is a MUST for Federal oversight. For the most part, corporations just WILL NOT do it unless there are consequences imposed upon them.
Posted on 1/17/19 at 11:06 am to nhlittle
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The regulations should be eliminated today.
Man, this thread is all full of STUPID.
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