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Posted on 7/1/24 at 8:22 pm to
Posted by momentoftruth87
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Posted on 7/1/24 at 8:22 pm to
Yeah that never happened
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/1/24 at 8:24 pm to
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You’re saying he paid her off in benefit of his company, not political reputation?

I'm saying that was his defense at trial, to justify why corporate funds were used.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/1/24 at 8:24 pm to
Again, no refutation of my post.
Posted by Riverside
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Posted on 7/1/24 at 8:29 pm to
Except for the trial testimony that utterly refutes your misinformation.

Here’s the jury instructions;

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Justice Merchan: The first of the People's theories of unlawful means is Federal elections law, including as to the office of the President of the US.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/1/24 at 8:30 pm to
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Except for the trial testimony that utterly refutes your misinformation.

It does not

Please tell me how many jurors voted to convict based off of federal election issues.

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Here’s the jury instructions;

Several potential crimes were listed.
This post was edited on 7/1/24 at 8:31 pm
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 7/1/24 at 8:34 pm to
The retrial gonna be fun!

Assuming that idiot actually tries again.
Posted by Timeoday
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Posted on 7/1/24 at 8:38 pm to
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I'm saying paying off a hooker with hush money to protect your reputation isn't an official act as President.


What was the crime?
Posted by Sofaking2
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Posted on 7/1/24 at 8:38 pm to
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Ordering the prideboys to hang Mike Pence because he believed it was necessary to enforce election security, sure. Paying off a hooked to protect his reputation doesn't smell quite the same.
none of it as bad as raping your daughter in the shower. See how that’s done?
Posted by Timeoday
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Posted on 7/1/24 at 8:39 pm to
This post was edited on 7/1/24 at 8:40 pm
Posted by CamdenTiger
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Posted on 7/1/24 at 8:40 pm to
They collect evidence from his Presidency, so….. not going to hold up…
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/1/24 at 8:41 pm to
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none of it as bad as raping your daughter in the shower.

Just so we're all clear. That's not an official act either
Posted by VOR
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Posted on 7/1/24 at 8:41 pm to
Ow would th unity argument apply to actions taken before he was in office?
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 7/1/24 at 8:43 pm to
Correct it would be in state court!

Posted by Sofaking2
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Posted on 7/1/24 at 8:43 pm to
Biden can’t stand trial he doesn’t remember anything about anything, lol
Posted by AtticusOSullivan
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Posted on 7/1/24 at 8:43 pm to
Show us where "hush money" is illegal. Also explain the congress hush money fund while your at it.
Posted by BlueDogTiger
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Posted on 7/1/24 at 8:48 pm to
“Testimony or private Records of the President or his advisors probing such conduct may not be admitted as evidence at trial”. Page 7
Posted by Taxing Authority
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Posted on 7/1/24 at 8:51 pm to
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immunity from prosecution for official actions he took as president,
He was (farcically) convicted of falsifying business records. That's not a presidential act. The SCOTUS decision won't even apply here with a massive ssstttttreeeeechhhhhh.
Posted by Taxing Authority
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Posted on 7/1/24 at 8:53 pm to
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I'm saying paying off a hooker with hush money to protect your reputation isn't an official act as President.
It's not. Nor is it a crime. Hell, that wasn't even what he was charged with. Because... it's not a crime.
This post was edited on 7/1/24 at 8:54 pm
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 7/1/24 at 8:54 pm to
Meh depends on what is admissable assuming Fat Albert decides to go for a retrial. His shite is going to get over turned.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
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Posted on 7/1/24 at 8:58 pm to
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I can't wait to read the briefs discussing how corporate payments for a "hush money" settlement were official acts of the President of the US. I think the payments were made post-election, but pre-inauguration, too.


Long shot, but….

Some of the testimony appears to have relied on information involved in what would/could be official acts. Would that not taint the verdict and call for a retrial?

Didn’t Roberts specifically point out that information received from official acts could not be used in trials regarding unofficial acts?
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