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Posted on 8/26/25 at 12:16 pm to
Posted by TigerB8
End Communism
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 12:16 pm to
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Like the British fighting the Zulus .


The Brits lost one of those battles.....

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The British suffered a significant defeat at the Battle of Isandlwana on 22 January 1879, where the Zulu army overwhelmed a British force, killing over 1,300 troops, including all those on the forward firing line.
This battle marked the British Army's worst defeat by an indigenous foe equipped with vastly inferior military technology.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
94989 posts
Posted on 8/26/25 at 12:28 pm to
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How do you have a 4.5 million civilian militia if you don't allow civilians to own firearms?

They handing machetes to every male or something?


Maduro isn't stupid enough to arm his own people. He'd be hanging from a bridge in a day if he did.
Posted by LB84
Member since May 2016
4444 posts
Posted on 8/26/25 at 12:30 pm to
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The Brits lost one of those battles.....


They won the war and the most impressive battle was 150 brits holding off 3k+ Zuu.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Rorke%27s_Drift
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69790 posts
Posted on 8/26/25 at 12:30 pm to
Europe’s relative instability for 1500 years created a competitive crucible forcing a Darwinian struggle where only the strongest nations survived and borders were defined by what they could defend.

Africa and the Middle East are in constant conflict because Europeans drew their borders arbitrarily in ways which invite conflict, promote instability, and make defending borders often very difficult. Iraq is the perfect example. It’s historically been a civilizational hub for maritime trade and agriculture, but with the way its borders are drawn, it has no control over its water supply, and all of its exports can be stopped at the world’s most easily blockadable port. Its borders are nearly completely indefensible with open desert to the West and Iran having nearly full control if the eastern highlands. Plus, Iraq has several large ethnic minorities controlling various regions. This means that the only way the country can exist is as a puppet state for its neighbors or as an expansionist authoritarian regime that lashes out to protect its vital interests.

Meanwhile, there’s South America. It turned out that the Spanish actually drew pretty sensible borders. While there was a series of wars in the 19th century that ironed out the few disputes that did exist, most of the borders largely reflected the realistic extent those former colonial centers of power could reasonably extend influence, with most having plenty enough resources to sustain themselves within those borders. As a result, the South American governments don’t have to compete with each other. Thus, they only had to contend themselves with placating their people to stay in power.
This post was edited on 8/26/25 at 12:31 pm
Posted by Jimmy Russel
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 12:36 pm to
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
5715 posts
Posted on 8/26/25 at 12:37 pm to
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Is shite about to get real?


Nah. Just a show of force.

But I hope I’m wrong. It’s past time we used the military to kill the cartels.
Posted by lud0
Bartlett
Member since Apr 2010
358 posts
Posted on 8/26/25 at 12:40 pm to
You and I both!
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
117159 posts
Posted on 8/26/25 at 12:43 pm to
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Marines going to be stacking bodies. Like the British fighting the Zulus .

I think it's gonna be more like the British fighting Argentina in the Falklands.
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
26691 posts
Posted on 8/26/25 at 1:17 pm to
They stole the last election. It would not take much to topple them - their people voted in someone else but dictator stopped election results mid stream and called it good (that he was still dictator). These type dictators cause trouble for us in many ways. It would help SA if he was held accountable. And majority of their people want him out.

Posted by sumtimeitbeslikedat
Vidalia, La
Member since Nov 2013
5004 posts
Posted on 8/26/25 at 1:46 pm to
Heck, we should just go ahead and take the rest of central and South America. Those peoples’ lives would be TONS better, crime would plummet and people could live in peace. They may still be poor, but ‘American Poor’ not ‘Third World Poor’. They’d all have nice cars, decent housing, indoor plumbing and hot and clean water, and never have to worry about starving… also much smaller chance of villagers being killed and hung en mass off of bridges. In return, we would never have to worry about resources again.
Posted by Tigergreg
Metairie
Member since Feb 2005
25062 posts
Posted on 8/26/25 at 1:57 pm to
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President Nicolás Maduro claims is a 4.5 million-member civilian militia in anticipation of potential U.S. military action.


Doubtful. That's about 15% of their population. He must be using children and senior citizens.
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
68321 posts
Posted on 8/26/25 at 2:01 pm to
Do you believe in Trump’s fantasy about
Maduro’s election?
Posted by LARancher1991
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2015
2102 posts
Posted on 8/26/25 at 2:19 pm to
Seems like they have been heading there for a couple of weeks now. What's taking them so long to get there
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
44412 posts
Posted on 8/26/25 at 2:25 pm to
Rebranding terrorism in the Middle East as Narco terrorism.

Posted by Tigergreg
Metairie
Member since Feb 2005
25062 posts
Posted on 8/26/25 at 2:31 pm to
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Do you believe in Trump’s fantasy about
Maduro’s election?


Trump's fantasy?

Multiple reports from independent observers, international bodies, and numerous countries indicate that Nicolás Maduro's elections in both 2018 and 2024 were not legitimate. Critics cite a range of issues, from blatant fraud to the government's control over key electoral institutions and suppression of opposition parties.

The 2024 presidential election
The most recent and highly scrutinized election took place in July 2024.
Contradictory results: The government-controlled National Electoral Council (CNE) declared Maduro the winner with 51% of the vote. However, independent observers, the opposition, and multiple foreign governments claimed that opposition candidate Edmundo González Urrutia had won by a wide margin.

Suppression of opposition: Prominent opposition leaders, including María Corina Machado, were barred from running. There were also reports of opposition members being arrested, and international observers were either blocked or not invited to monitor the vote.

International rejection: Numerous countries, including the United States, several European nations, and many Latin American states, refused to recognize the official results, citing ample evidence of fraud. The U.S. government has since recognized González as the president-elect.
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
5712 posts
Posted on 8/26/25 at 2:59 pm to
I said wars, not US coup attempts.

Fun fact about our invasion of Panama to topple their government. We never declared it a war. Because we never declared it a war, immigrants who fought for the US in Panama were not eligible for expedited citizenship for having served in a war.

Which means this poor Korean, who got a Purple Heart for being shot in the back in Panama in 1989 fighting for the Americans, was later stabbed in the back by America in 2025 and deported back to Korea.

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Although the U.S. offers expedited naturalization for those who serve honorably in the U.S. military for at least one year, or a single day during wartime, Park was discharged before he had served 12 months and the invasion of Panama was not classified as a period of hostility.


LINK
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
36443 posts
Posted on 8/26/25 at 3:00 pm to
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US boots on the ground in Venezuela

Would be a terrible decision.
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