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Posted on 1/31/26 at 1:08 pm to dalefla
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The 1st Amendment protects them from government retribution when reporting factually on the government.
This is an extremely narrow interpretation of the first amendment.
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Does not allow them to enter private property
Correct
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spew politically biased BS
Holy moly this is flagrantly incorrect.
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I truly wonder what it it's like to go through life being so stupid.
I’d consider thinking the first amendment doesn’t protect one from spewing “politically biased BS” rather stupid
Posted on 1/31/26 at 1:09 pm to ApexTiger
No one is allowed to plan and execute a terror campaign against members of a church at service. It’s a crime.
Posted on 1/31/26 at 1:10 pm to onmymedicalgrind
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I can decide right now I want to investigate how many cars are parked illegally, and I am now a member of the press with the same protections as an investigative reporter for local channel 6.
Checking cars is on public property. A church is not public property. They can exclude entry to anyone they like. That's why a manager would tell his reporter: 'No, we'll get sued.'
Posted on 1/31/26 at 1:12 pm to andwesway
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It's probably going to be tricky to get a conviction.
The videos show that he was complicit.
What will set the standard is that when he was asked to leave directly by the pastor, he didn't.
Lemon immediately went on a podcasts and claimed that the people attending the church were all white supremacists.
Several of the others will be nailed for blocking parents from getting their children out of the nursery. It isn't very hard to establish that they intended to cause distress when you use children as leverage.
Posted on 1/31/26 at 1:14 pm to ApexTiger
If they have the freedom to intimidate a church service I reserve the right to use my freedom to beat them about the face.
Posted on 1/31/26 at 1:15 pm to Zach
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Checking cars is on public property.
If it’s open to the public, I can check cars on private property too until I am told to go away.
Posted on 1/31/26 at 1:17 pm to ApexTiger
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Do you think Lemon and Fort should have been arrested and should also prosecuted for filming an unlawful/ unpermitted protest?
They broke the law right? Then yes they deserve to be arrested.
I don’t understand (but honestly I do) understand when “freedom of the press“ assured by the first amendment, somehow became twisted in peoples minds to “ as long as I say, I’m a reporter there are certain laws that don’t apply to me“ or “since I’m a journalist I am above the law“
Like, you can’t just break it into someone’s house and steal their computer just because your journalist investigating a story on that person
Posted on 1/31/26 at 1:18 pm to ApexTiger
Just like the first amendment itself, comes with restrictions.
Collusion with persons in the commission committing a crime is generally viewed as being an accessory to the crime.
Committing a crime invalidates certain protections. Shouldn’t be a hard concept for people to understand.
Collusion with persons in the commission committing a crime is generally viewed as being an accessory to the crime.
Committing a crime invalidates certain protections. Shouldn’t be a hard concept for people to understand.
Posted on 1/31/26 at 1:18 pm to ApexTiger
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What is your position on freedom of the Press?
If we had a press that truly served as a watchdog for the public, holding those in power on both sides truly accountable, I’d advocate for and defend every moment.
As it is, we have freedom of activism and propaganda disguised as “the press”.
Instead of a watchdog for the public they largely serve as a guard dog for the goals that the “liberal world order” elites aim to achieve.
I don’t believe that “press” has served any noble purpose at all and would not care one whit if it disappeared forever.
Posted on 1/31/26 at 1:20 pm to Great Plains Drifter
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Instead of a watchdog for the public they largely serve as a guard dog for the goals that the “liberal world order” elites aim to achieve. I don’t believe that “press” has served any noble purpose at all and would not care one whit if it disappeared forever.
Not sure why people conflate “the press”‘with the mainstream media.
You don’t support the Nick Shirley’s of the world?
Posted on 1/31/26 at 1:26 pm to roadGator
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If they have the freedom to intimidate a church service
So if I get a shirt made with the words "Press" on the front and , "Reporter" on the back and march into Ebenezer Baptist Church in Atlanta and start shouting slurs during the service, what type of response will I get?
And then if I appear on a podcast right after my visit and label all of the people there as a bunch of "N_gg_rs," will that be OK too?
Just asking for all of the black folks who had to put up with that kind of intimidation before the law was passed.
Posted on 1/31/26 at 1:27 pm to andwesway
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It's probably going to be tricky to get a conviction. He is/was technically a member of the press at the time this happened. The issue comes in when he inserts himself into the protest because he's a self-important a-hole.
Tricky conviction?
He was arrested...you think this is going to backfire on the DOJ?
Posted on 1/31/26 at 1:28 pm to onmymedicalgrind
So you're saying the people that entered the church weren't spewing politically biased bullshite? You'd be ignorantly wrong. They were spewing anti ice bullshite because of their political bias. The first amendment doesn't protect that after you've illegally entered private property.
Posted on 1/31/26 at 1:28 pm to onmymedicalgrind
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You don’t support the Nick Shirley’s of the world?
He didn’t violate the face act
Posted on 1/31/26 at 1:30 pm to Chip82
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Lemon immediately went on a podcasts and claimed that the people attending the church were all white supremacists.
ah, and now we have motive to go in!
Posted on 1/31/26 at 1:30 pm to andwesway
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It's probably going to be tricky to get a conviction. He is/was technically a member of the press at the time this happened. The issue comes in when he inserts himself into the protest because he's a self-important a-hole.
FYI evidence was presented to a grand jury, in Minnesota, to obtain the warrant. Think about that for a few seconds.
Posted on 1/31/26 at 1:30 pm to Chip82
That’s (D)ifferent
Posted on 1/31/26 at 1:32 pm to onmymedicalgrind
I wouldn’t support Nick Shirley interrupting a church service.
Posted on 1/31/26 at 1:33 pm to ApexTiger
I'm in favor of common sense press reform.
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