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re: When Trump is charged for seditious conspiracy what will the America First patriots do?
Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:00 am to Bass Tiger
Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:00 am to Bass Tiger
If they had enough to charge him they would charge him. This is pure political theater to distract from shite economy
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Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:04 am to Robin Masters
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When Trump is charged for seditious conspiracy what will the America First patriots do?
If they had enough to charge him they would charge him. This is pure political theater to distract from shite economy
We, the people who are informed and pay attention know this, some people believe the show trial is being conducted to soften up Americans so when charges are levied against Trump they won't think there's anything out of the ordinary happening.
Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:05 am to Bass Tiger
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When Trump is charged for seditious conspiracy what will the America First patriots do?
They charge him and he becomes a martyr. They ignore him and the entire MAGA crusade slowly goes away just like the Tea Party did.
I would welcome charges. It's like pulling a gun. They had better be ready to use that gun. The last ten times they pulled a gun, it didn't go off.
Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:15 am to Bass Tiger
Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:30 am to cajunangelle
There are still people who consider themselves MAGA/America First patriots who dismiss the possibility of the DOJ filing charges against Trump….it’s like they haven’t been paying attention the past 10-15 years.
Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:35 am to tadman
I just read the article Paul Sperry linked. The expert legal eagles (and former DOJ blah blah blah officials) Are so full of themselves in idiocy of Lawfare Bloggers arrogance.
They bring the basic tenant of the discussion down to Biden deciding to charge Trump or not. Then someone says, hey that makes it political.
Then they say Garland was not thinking he would charge a former President-but has since changed his mind because of the newly revealed evidence.
They go on to brag that any ole charge could easily snare Trump. They wouldn't have to prove his ties to the Proud Boys.
They say Garland is in a pickle because if he doesn't charge Trump-it will ruin our democracy or some such BS. Then they reference all the Nixon crap and insinuate Biden could pardon Trump.
They bring the basic tenant of the discussion down to Biden deciding to charge Trump or not. Then someone says, hey that makes it political.
Then they say Garland was not thinking he would charge a former President-but has since changed his mind because of the newly revealed evidence.
They go on to brag that any ole charge could easily snare Trump. They wouldn't have to prove his ties to the Proud Boys.
They say Garland is in a pickle because if he doesn't charge Trump-it will ruin our democracy or some such BS. Then they reference all the Nixon crap and insinuate Biden could pardon Trump.
Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:37 am to Bass Tiger
Of course there’s a possibility, but as far as I know there’s no grand jury empaneled for the purpose of pursuing charges, which would most certainly be the route they took in such an event, not a mere “suggestion” from the J6 committee. And one would think said grand jury would’ve already been convened. So while there’s a possibility, all indications point to that not happening.
Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:39 am to Bass Tiger
I meant to include Julie's comment in that tweeted article. That civil unrest IS WHAT THEY WANT.
Posted on 6/11/22 at 11:05 am to davyjones
quote:Most seem to see (& MSM articles about outright boasting) that the committee hearing is to be very, very, serious and prep the public for the possibility of Trump's arrest.
In a court filing, the government said it didn't want to warn Navarro about the arrest ahead of time because it "would give the Defendant the opportunity to flee, tamper with witnesses or evidence, or take other steps to interfere with the criminal case."
Navarro was indicted on two counts of contempt of Congress, one for failing to provide papers, and another for failing to provide testimony.
It seems like a sick, serious game. That if Trump announced he wasn't running for President then Garland would suddenly not charge him? No? Their goal seems twofold. They want his endorsement ability shattered and him to never run for office.
Your notion may be correct in the sense that they won't arrest him until after midterms. After the GOP has used him like a rug kinda (separate from Trump's non GOPe endorsements) to get the majority. Then Trump is toast if he still hints at running.
It is like election night when Hannity let the decision desk know Trump was en route to a podium for Victory. This closed the vote counting and forced Fox to call AZ way early for Biden.
The GOPe (McCarthy) are privy to when Trump may announce 2024. So they are stopping the announcement with a grand jury on the back burner.
Posted on 6/11/22 at 11:41 am to themunch
Military will back their superior officers which means a corrupt CONgress and White House can do Anything they want to whoever they want.
Posted on 6/11/22 at 12:00 pm to davyjones
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Of course there’s a possibility, but as far as I know there’s no grand jury empaneled for the purpose of pursuing charges, which would most certainly be the route they took in such an event, not a mere “suggestion” from the J6 committee. And one would think said grand jury would’ve already been convened. So while there’s a possibility, all indications point to that not happening.
Don't they always have a grand jury or two running for regular business?
And they aren't going to do anything based on what the Committee recommends. They will act if the Proud Boys they just hauled in turn on Trump and testify that he was involved in decision making and planning.
More than likely there were some middle men (if there is a there there) and they would arrest Navarro, Flynn, or Giuliani first.
This post was edited on 6/11/22 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 6/11/22 at 12:08 pm to Bass Tiger
They won't charge him because it would lead to a court case he would win. He would then be vindicated and they couldn't attack him, and by extension all of his voters, as traitors to the country. They will only heavily insinuate it because then they don't have to actually prove anything.
Posted on 6/11/22 at 12:11 pm to mmcgrath
quote:And like Manafort. They will put them in solitary naked until they compose that Trump is the Proud Boys secret leader.
They will act if the Proud Boys they just hauled in turn on Trump and testify that he was involved in decision making and planning.
It is ludicrous but it is where they are going.
Also they arrested a known, card carrying, widely reported in past court documents FBI informant-Enrique.
So they will get Enrique to say in sworn testimony deposition; that Trump asked the proud boys to go J6th.
It matters not whether they create/show the evidence; because they have a tainted DC Grand Jury of democrat jurors-all picked out.
^^^THIS.IS.WHERE.WE.ARE.AT
Are you proud?
Posted on 6/11/22 at 12:54 pm to mmcgrath
They do have a grand jury that is sworn in for a fixed period of time/duty (then a new group for fixed period, then another and so on), and call them up when needed for a case(s).
**And Navarro’s recent arrest was a different situation in that it’s not necessarily an unusual event for a Congressional committee to refer contempt for criminal charges. And DOJ would be more inclined to pursue that specific charge because it’s just a good ole process “crime” and not a substantive (“serious”) charge. In fact I can’t imagine the DOJ pursuing anything other than that particular offense based only on a Congressional referral. Anything beyond a contempt charge would be pursued separately by DOJ through the normal process, i.e. investigation by whichever fed agency, referral of any alleged offenses to U.S. Attorney.
**And Navarro’s recent arrest was a different situation in that it’s not necessarily an unusual event for a Congressional committee to refer contempt for criminal charges. And DOJ would be more inclined to pursue that specific charge because it’s just a good ole process “crime” and not a substantive (“serious”) charge. In fact I can’t imagine the DOJ pursuing anything other than that particular offense based only on a Congressional referral. Anything beyond a contempt charge would be pursued separately by DOJ through the normal process, i.e. investigation by whichever fed agency, referral of any alleged offenses to U.S. Attorney.
This post was edited on 6/11/22 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 6/11/22 at 1:03 pm to cajunangelle
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And like Manafort. They will put them in solitary naked until they compose that Trump is the Proud Boys secret leader.
It is ludicrous but it is where they are going.
Also they arrested a known, card carrying, widely reported in past court documents FBI informant-Enrique.
So they will get Enrique to say in sworn testimony deposition; that Trump asked the proud boys to go J6th.
It matters not whether they create/show the evidence; because they have a tainted DC Grand Jury of democrat jurors-all picked out.
^^^THIS.IS.WHERE.WE.ARE.AT
Are you proud?
Besides your obvious histrionics, don't you think it was unwise for Trump to have private WH meetings and close ties through associates with a guy known for squeeling to the Feds? Sleep with dogs...
Posted on 6/11/22 at 1:08 pm to davyjones
quote:That's what I thought. They can also empanel a special GJ for more complex cases, but I don't think they are there yet.
They do have a grand jury that is sworn in for a fixed period of time/duty (then a new group for fixed period, then another and so on), and call them up when needed for a case(s).
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**And Navarro’s recent arrest was a different situation in that it’s not a outlying event for a Congressional committee to refer a matter for criminal charges in the case of contempt, i.e. declining to comply with a subpoena. And DOJ is more inclined to roll with that particular charge because it’s just the good ole process “crime” and not a substantive charge. In fact I can’t imagine the DOJ pursuing anything other than that particular offense based only on a Congressional referral. Anything beyond a contempt charge would be pursued separately by DOJ through the normal process, i.e. investigation by whichever fed agency, referral of any alleged offenses to U.S. Attorney.
I included Navaro with Flynn and Stone because he was reportedly begging for a pardon before Trump left office. If the Proud Boys start flipping I can see them adding a seditious conspiracy charge to get him to flip on Trump.
Of course this would all be assuming that there is a "there" there.
Posted on 6/11/22 at 1:08 pm to Bass Tiger
It'll be a DC court and a conviction is assured. Game over folks. Choose another person you can feel comfortable with as a President. And numbers of GOP politicians are going to get folded into this. It'll happen fast as it has to to impact the mid-terms for the Dems. More prime time viewing ahead.
Posted on 6/11/22 at 1:08 pm to mmcgrath
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Sleep with dogs...
Now do hunter. Posted on 6/11/22 at 1:12 pm to VoxDawg
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Laugh at the prospect of them trying to get a conviction.
You can indict, convict and send a GOP ham sandwich to prison in DC.
Posted on 6/11/22 at 1:17 pm to mmcgrath
The entire gas-lighting, say he is an agent of Putin's and is now the leader of Proud Boys- get Trump OMB saga is nothing but obvious histrionics.
And hold the front door. Are you saying The proud Boys visited Trump in the WH? Much less going there to discuss J6th tactics?
And hold the front door. Are you saying The proud Boys visited Trump in the WH? Much less going there to discuss J6th tactics?
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