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Posted on 4/18/22 at 2:24 pm to AUstar
We are trying to build two new reactors in south Georgia. Regulation seems to be the latest thing holding up progress.
AJC..Georgia’s Vogtle nuclear expansion hit with new delays, costs
The cost of two nuclear reactors being built is now $28.5 billion, more than twice the original price tag. Reactors No. 3 and 4 at Vogtle are more than five years overdue.
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as it works its way through tens of thousands of records for materials and equipment installed in the first of its two new units.
AJC..Georgia’s Vogtle nuclear expansion hit with new delays, costs
The cost of two nuclear reactors being built is now $28.5 billion, more than twice the original price tag. Reactors No. 3 and 4 at Vogtle are more than five years overdue.
Posted on 4/18/22 at 2:40 pm to Deplorableinohio
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Coal, nuclear, and natural gas should be used for baseload electric generation. The fact most politicians, media, and the public don’t understand is baseload generation is needed anyway to back up the intermittent production of electricity by unreliable renewable wind and solar energy.
Yep, exactly. Solar and wind rely on things outside of our control. The sun shines half the day and wind is totally unpredictable. In order to make these usable as baseline power, you need crazy energy storage technology. And if something goes wrong with that, well, we're all in the dark until the wind blows again.
Coal is the cheapest, but the also dirtiest (both in CO2 and in particulate pollution). Natural gas is the next cheapest and is much cleaner as far as particulate matter and also better with CO2. Nuke is the next cheapest and has almost zero particulate matter or CO2 emissions.
To me nuke sounds like a good trade-off. Pay 7 cents per KWh vs. 5 cents (NG) and 3 cents (coal). Yes, it's more expensive but not outrageous. People aren't going to go broke because of it.
And I bet that price would come down if government got out of the way. No, I am not saying no regulations (I am all for the NRC policing it) but even Congress (both Dems and Reps) said the regulations on the nuke industry were ridiculous. A number of years ago Congress was working to streamline the nuke plant permit process, but I don't know what came of it.
Posted on 4/18/22 at 2:49 pm to AUstar
Nuke power plant applications are up. It is coming.
Posted on 4/18/22 at 2:54 pm to AUstar
Gates and Buffett are building one in Wyoming.
Bill Gates, Warren Buffett building nuclear reactor in coal-rich Wyoming
Bill Gates, Warren Buffett building nuclear reactor in coal-rich Wyoming
Posted on 4/18/22 at 2:57 pm to i am dan
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We should be able to make an economical rocket for the sole purpose of launching long-lived isotopes into deep space for disposal.
I’m one of the biggest nuclear advocates around, but this is so retarded. You are proposing launching nuclear waste on a damn rocket. You know, the things that have a probability of greater than zero of exploding in the atmosphere
Posted on 4/18/22 at 3:01 pm to AUstar
The green energy nutballs can't get rich through grift if we're promoting nuclear energy.
Posted on 4/18/22 at 3:14 pm to AUstar
Nuclear?!
Chernobyl
Three Mile Island
Chernobyl
Three Mile Island
Posted on 4/18/22 at 3:18 pm to AUstar
Did you not see the SNL skit back in the day with Aykroyd as Carter and Garrett Morris as his new squeeze????? People thought that was real.
Reality was that Three Mile Island happened . Funny thing is that the plant and safety features worked EXACTLY as they were designed. But then Chernobyl came about 6 years later. Funny, though the French continued to build them....without incident. So long as you don't have scared Russians/ Ukrainians building and operating or build on a fault line you probably are OK
Reality was that Three Mile Island happened . Funny thing is that the plant and safety features worked EXACTLY as they were designed. But then Chernobyl came about 6 years later. Funny, though the French continued to build them....without incident. So long as you don't have scared Russians/ Ukrainians building and operating or build on a fault line you probably are OK
Posted on 4/18/22 at 3:25 pm to AUstar
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Why Aren't We Doing More Nuclear Power?
Because bad Soviet designs compounded by bad Soviet workmanship and bad Soviet quality control/regulation led to a meltdown 50 years ago at a plant in Ukraine that wasn’t even constructed with a containment structure surrounding the reactor.
Does this make sense? No. But it is the reason.
Posted on 4/18/22 at 3:26 pm to AUstar
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Why Aren't We Doing More Nuclear Power?
America is under siege.
Our enemies are arrayed against us.
The Nation is surrounded and infiltrated.
But because we don't hear bombs exploding and bullets flying - we forget and go back to sleep.
ECo 2ndB 99thARC
Posted on 4/18/22 at 3:30 pm to Great Plains Drifter
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Posted on 4/18/22 at 3:31 pm to AUstar
3 mile island and Chernobyl destroyed the industry.
By far the most economical and reliable way to produce electricity. The waste is minimal!
The risk in a non EQ area is extremely low! It is dumb for us to close the door on nukes for power.
By far the most economical and reliable way to produce electricity. The waste is minimal!
The risk in a non EQ area is extremely low! It is dumb for us to close the door on nukes for power.
Posted on 4/18/22 at 3:37 pm to AUstar
It's not going to help that the current nuclear project in Georgia is approaching $16 Billion over budget. Part of that is poor management by Southern Company but part is because the supply chain and expertise was lost because we stopped building them.
Also, we need to move to building smaller units in the future.
Also, we need to move to building smaller units in the future.
Posted on 4/18/22 at 3:38 pm to AUstar
"It emits no CO2 or any other pollutant."
CO2 is the most important molecule for life on Earth, it is not a pollutant. It is a plant nutrient.
CO2 is the most important molecule for life on Earth, it is not a pollutant. It is a plant nutrient.
Posted on 4/18/22 at 3:42 pm to LSUnation78
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Some of the new generation reactors you mention arent finalized designs yet.
Yes they are. There's one up and running in China and the 2 new reactors beig built in Georgia are the new Westinghouse design.
Posted on 4/18/22 at 3:47 pm to AUstar
Forget CO2. Manmade emissions have negligible impact on climate. FACT.
Coal particulate matter, insignificant impact on air quality. Electrostatic precipitators remove 99.95+% of particulate matter from combustion flue gas. There has been no problem meeting ever more stringent EPA ambient air quality standards for decades on any coal fired plant in the United States.
Coal particulate matter, insignificant impact on air quality. Electrostatic precipitators remove 99.95+% of particulate matter from combustion flue gas. There has been no problem meeting ever more stringent EPA ambient air quality standards for decades on any coal fired plant in the United States.
Posted on 4/18/22 at 3:47 pm to tgdawg68
cause if we gonna get radiated it's gonna be from a russian icbm and not some homer simpson screw up/meltdown
Posted on 4/18/22 at 3:47 pm to AUstar
It's all about long range and business confidence. Plants cost a lot and the investment is not worth it unless you are confident your nuke won't be banned by the Dems in govt.
If there was a guarantee of no leftists in power for 50 years the plants would be built.
If there was a guarantee of no leftists in power for 50 years the plants would be built.
Posted on 4/18/22 at 3:50 pm to AUstar
1. Because it's "expensive" (damn the literally trillions we just wasted on other bs
2. Because it works and it solves a problem
The govt, contrary to popular liberal belief, has NO INTENT to fix problems. They enjoy being needed.
2. Because it works and it solves a problem
The govt, contrary to popular liberal belief, has NO INTENT to fix problems. They enjoy being needed.
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