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Posted on 3/27/17 at 1:21 pm to pvilleguru
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Brazilian Ronaldo
FFS
The only Ronaldo
Posted on 3/27/17 at 1:53 pm to S
I wasn't discounting Rooney's talent by saying he was at Everton, this all started by me trying to compare resumes of Pulisic to all-time greats.
No one knows how the careers of these guys will turn out, and it's probably unlikely that Pulisic becomes a legit top ten player in the world. That's very rare. But there is absolutely no basis based on what he's done up to age 18 that what preclude him from the conversation down the line. Andres Iniesta was playing for Barcelona B at Pulisic's age for christ's sake
No one knows how the careers of these guys will turn out, and it's probably unlikely that Pulisic becomes a legit top ten player in the world. That's very rare. But there is absolutely no basis based on what he's done up to age 18 that what preclude him from the conversation down the line. Andres Iniesta was playing for Barcelona B at Pulisic's age for christ's sake
Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:05 pm to tigerfan88
Lets be real here, if this kid was european, south american or african and doing what he is doing for Dortmund, we'd all be saying, "yeah, I can see him being a top 10 player in the world."
It's that we see "Hershey, PA" as his place his birth that causes caution and has everyone thinking, "surely, a full-blooded American can't be this good."
Will he be top 10 in the world, soon? No way of knowing, a lot of things have to go the right way, but he has as good a chance, if not better, than any of the top prospects that are currently around his age.
It's that we see "Hershey, PA" as his place his birth that causes caution and has everyone thinking, "surely, a full-blooded American can't be this good."
Will he be top 10 in the world, soon? No way of knowing, a lot of things have to go the right way, but he has as good a chance, if not better, than any of the top prospects that are currently around his age.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:16 pm to Broski
The danger is that he will be run into the ground and have injuries that could derail his career. That has happened to plenty of young players who never reached those heights again. I mean, Jack Wilshere was amazingly promising as an 18 year old. He's now the poster boy of overreliance on teenagers before their bodies have fully developed.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:18 pm to pvilleguru
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Wake me up when Tielemans challenges himself.
You aren't wrong, but I feel like this is kind of unfair to Youri.
He's still a teenager playing for his boyhood club. I feel like criticizing anyone for that is a bit harsh.
That's like calling Neymar a bitch for staying in Brazil until he was 21 or whatever.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:21 pm to McCaigBro69
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That's like calling Neymar a bitch for staying in Brazil until he was 21 or whatever.
Well Neymar is a bitch, but that's an argument for a different thread.
This post was edited on 3/27/17 at 2:21 pm
Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:21 pm to McCaigBro69
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I feel like criticizing anyone for that is a bit harsh.
It's not like the Belgian league is devoid of talent. They are producing better players than the Dutch recently.
Tielemans has played consistently at a high level since he was 16. If he can stay injury free, he seems like he could be a high-level contributor to a big team.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:21 pm to pvilleguru
He's really gotten a lot better this year from a theatrical standpoint, from the little I've seen anyway
Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:22 pm to pvilleguru
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Well Neymar is a bitch, but that's an argument for a different thread.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:24 pm to Broski
quote:Agreed.
Lets be real here, if this kid was european, south american or african and doing what he is doing for Dortmund, we'd all be saying, "yeah, I can see him being a top 10 player in the world."
It's that we see "Hershey, PA" as his place his birth that causes caution and has everyone thinking, "surely, a full-blooded American can't be this good."
Will he be top 10 in the world, soon? No way of knowing, a lot of things have to go the right way, but he has as good a chance, if not better, than any of the top prospects that are currently around his age
Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:26 pm to crazy4lsu
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The danger is that he will be run into the ground and have injuries that could derail his career. That has happened to plenty of young players who never reached those heights again. I mean, Jack Wilshere was amazingly promising as an 18 year old. He's now the poster boy of overreliance on teenagers before their bodies have fully developed.
Maybe we've all been blinded by the hysteria and ignorant of the fact that he is still just 18, but I don't feel as though BVB have overused him to this point. Tuchel has done a good job at rotating him in and out of the XI.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:26 pm to The Mick
Pulisic certainly could be a top 10 player in the world.
Gauging that is impossible though. Everything is available to him to become that kind of player, but it could all end just as quickly. He's a bad tackle away from being the next Stu Holden.
Gauging that is impossible though. Everything is available to him to become that kind of player, but it could all end just as quickly. He's a bad tackle away from being the next Stu Holden.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:28 pm to McCaigBro69
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but it could all end just as quickly. He's a bad tackle away from being the next Stu Holden.
You can literally say this about anybody though, so it doesn't really fit with the argument that exploded in this thread.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:30 pm to Broski
Dortmund have good depth, so it might not be a worry at the club level, but Pulisic already has 12 caps for the US, and the play in CONCACAF is arguably more physical against the US in particular because of shitty refereeing. Pulisic seems physical enough but one shitty tackle on a shitty field in Central America could do him in. That's my worry.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:31 pm to Broski
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You can literally say this about anybody though, so it doesn't really fit with the argument that exploded in this thread.
Oh, for sure
Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:33 pm to crazy4lsu
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Dortmund have good depth, so it might not be a worry at the club level, but Pulisic already has 12 caps for the US, and the play in CONCACAF is arguably more physical against the US in particular because of shitty refereeing. Pulisic seems physical enough but one shitty tackle on a shitty field in Central America could do him in. That's my worry.
Sure, that was in the back of my mind when Honduras was clearly trying to rough him up in the first 30 minutes. Had Lletget and Brooks not been injury subs, I would've liked to have gotten him off the field at the 65th-70th minute. But in reality, there is no real way to avoid that risk.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:36 pm to Broski
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But in reality, there is no real way to avoid that risk.
Other than to develop solid depth at that position. Hopeful that Zelalem and Hyndman develop enough. I don't know who else is in the pipeline. There's also a danger of building international teams around certain players, but I think Bruce is smart enough to know that.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:40 pm to crazy4lsu
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Other than to develop solid depth at that position
But even so, that won't take away from Pulisic's minutes on the pitch. International soccer schedules are so spread out and sporadic that you're always going to play your best talent when you have the chance.
That's amplified even more when Pulisic can play in a multitude of spots.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:45 pm to Broski
That's true. Having another creator can lessen both the defensive pressure on Pulisic, which hopefully will spar him too many harsh challenges and the offensive pressure to run the offense through him.
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