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Posted on 7/10/18 at 9:09 pm to
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 7/10/18 at 9:09 pm to
We don't want any of the players in our pool to go to college.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39520 posts
Posted on 7/10/18 at 9:11 pm to
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We don't want any of the players in our pool to go to college.



He can speak for himself, but I read it as a way of increasing the player pool. Going to college is a waste of time for professional level players.
Posted by Bill Parker?
Member since Jan 2013
5315 posts
Posted on 7/10/18 at 11:01 pm to
The biggest hurdle to developing young soccer players in the U.S. today is Fortnight.
Posted by N.O. via West-Cal
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2004
7733 posts
Posted on 7/10/18 at 11:11 pm to
I'm aware that this is the standard view and as with baseball and tennis, few of the very top players would go to college (or not for very long). But the promise of scholarships would keep more good players in the game longer. And the standard view doesn't have the best track record in this country.
Posted by BitBuster
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 7/11/18 at 9:13 am to
One of USA's problems is that college is the de facto minor league for most of our major sports. As previously mentioned Title IX doesn't help at all. Because we're operating outside of the college system, the money/investment/infrastructure just isn't in place for us to be successful ad developing youth yet.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 9:14 am to
NCAA also has a ton of restrictions as far as the length of the season, practice time, etc.
Posted by joey barton
Member since Feb 2011
11468 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 9:28 am to
Judging by how many players are obsessed with it, we might be closer than we think
Posted by Usafgiles
North Augusta, SC
Member since Oct 2009
1904 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 11:50 am to
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The biggest hurdle to developing young soccer players in the U.S. today is Fortnight.




So Europeans and Asians don't play video games? Solid point.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
39247 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 4:25 pm to
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US population - 328 million
Croatia population - 4.1 million


And Croatia is also awesome at basketball challenging the Dream Teamers.

But America sucks at soccer because:

I don't play soccer guys:

LeBron James
Barry Sanders
Deion Sanders
Herschel Walker
Dominique Wilkens
Jordan
Bo Jackson
Kobe

You could go on and on...the most naturally gifted American athletes play basketball and football.

That's it.
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
26190 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 4:26 pm to
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You could go on and on...the most naturally gifted American athletes play basketball and football. That's it.


yeah, Croatia's players are much bigger, faster, and stronger. thats the reason they keep winning
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 4:27 pm to
Are all of your posts this bad?
Posted by Senora Ramos
Member since Apr 2014
2074 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 4:28 pm to
The only thing I hate about the wc is this stupid tired wrong argument
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
79980 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 4:28 pm to
quote:

And Croatia is also awesome at basketball challenging the Dream Teamers.

But America sucks at soccer because:

I don't play soccer guys:

LeBron James
Barry Sanders
Deion Sanders
Herschel Walker
Dominique Wilkens
Jordan
Bo Jackson
Kobe

You could go on and on...the most naturally gifted American athletes play basketball and football.

That's it.


This is a dumb argument.

For the umpteenth time, athletes aren't the problem.
Posted by TejasHorn
High Plains Driftin'
Member since Mar 2007
11587 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 4:37 pm to
Croatia's population is close, but slightly smaller than the Phoenix metro area.

Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 4:54 pm to
quote:

Croatia's population is close, but slightly smaller than the Phoenix metro area.

And...?
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
48021 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 5:44 pm to
We don't develop our players for shite compared to the rest of the world. That's the problem, not pure athleticism
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
25641 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 6:29 pm to
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No worries. we're stacked, the worlds fricked


I have to admit, we are getting much better at the game at the younger ages. If you watch any of our youth teams you’d know there’s some real quality that’s coming up and a lot of it. Lots of players at European clubs training with the best and even a lot that are getting developed at MLS academies, and probably one of our best youths right now came from a Soccer Club (St Louis Scott Gallagher). When you think about the sheer amount of kids (24 million) who play soccer here there’s plenty that are slipping through the cracks or might not be getting the development they need. But things are still looking better than they ever have as far as developed elite talent.
Posted by Dalosaqy
I can't quite re
Member since Dec 2007
13383 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 9:57 pm to
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Simple the best athletes play other sports

Post less, much less.
Posted by eric4UA08
Member since Nov 2008
2027 posts
Posted on 7/12/18 at 8:55 am to
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This is a dumb argument.

For the umpteenth time, athletes aren't the problem.


No question, you are correct. But I won’t lie, when I was watching Lukaku (6’3 207) running around on that field a few days ago, I was DEFINITELY thinking about how we probably have the potential to produce more physically dominant guys like that than anyone else. It isn’t the answer, but it’s easy to consider when you don’t know much about the game (or are learning it).
Posted by mizslu314
Dirty STL
Member since Sep 2013
16705 posts
Posted on 7/12/18 at 9:17 am to
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St Louis Scott Gallaghe


You're not kidding. They are pumping out stud's left and right.

Since STLFC (USL) and Scott Gallagher are one club, the kids who are like 13-16 get to do some training with the pro level squad. Awesome opportunity to develop and play that type of comp at that age.

there are also random games where there will be 200+ watching 14 y/o play.
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