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re: The audio book debate
Posted on 2/15/22 at 10:44 pm to Philzilla2k
Posted on 2/15/22 at 10:44 pm to Philzilla2k
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read·ing
/'rediNG/
noun
1.
the action or skill of reading written or printed matter silently or aloud.
The definition of book is "a written or printed work consisting of pages glued or sewn together along one side and bound in covers." So did you really read a book if you downloaded a digital copy? What an asinine argument.
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Posted on 2/22/22 at 10:54 pm to Sneaky__Sally
Some serious mental gymnastics happening in this thread. Impressive
If you listened to someone read the book, you didn’t read the book. Do you listen to music when you read sheet music?
It’s not a big deal, you can obviously get a lot out of audio books. I’ve listened to probably 5 books in the past 2 weeks.
I think the only problem associated with this distinction is telling people you read books, giving the impression that it’s how you spend a great deal of your time, when you are just listening to them. These same people like to bring up that “the book is better than the movie”
If you listened to someone read the book, you didn’t read the book. Do you listen to music when you read sheet music?
It’s not a big deal, you can obviously get a lot out of audio books. I’ve listened to probably 5 books in the past 2 weeks.
I think the only problem associated with this distinction is telling people you read books, giving the impression that it’s how you spend a great deal of your time, when you are just listening to them. These same people like to bring up that “the book is better than the movie”
Posted on 2/23/22 at 7:25 pm to bayoubengals88
I listen to audiobooks a ton at work - spending 65+ hours a week driving in the upper plains has its advantages. I concentrate better when driving because I've been listening to the audible for so long.
Posted on 2/25/22 at 12:37 pm to Horsemeat
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I listen to audiobooks a ton at work - spending 65+ hours a week driving in the upper plains has its advantages. I concentrate better when driving because I've been listening to the audible for so long.
Did you happen to read the thread? If not, the post right above and one of mine on the previous page is kind of a TL,DR version.
It's awesome that you get to listen to that much but what you're saying is not the debate. Nobody is saying there aren't a ton of good benefits to audiobooks. Most everyone seems to do both.
Simple question is this: When you're LISTENING to hours upon hours each week while DRIVING, would you say that you are reading the book?
Posted on 3/14/22 at 8:30 pm to bayoubengals88
It’s super hard for me to find an audio book that can capture my attention 100%. I listen when stuck in traffic so I have the time to be free of distractions (I get stuck in traffic every day) but it’s all about the reader. Either I can listen to them for 5+ hours or I can’t. I find I love audiobooks with multiple characters voiced by different people or someone talented enough to differentiate them on their own. It’s rare but I’ve found a few. I’d say I finish 1 out of every 10 audiobooks that I start.
Posted on 4/4/22 at 8:46 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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Simple question is this: When you're LISTENING to hours upon hours each week while DRIVING, would you say that you are reading the book?
Yes. Absolutely. Quite often my recall is better listening than reading. Couple that with the fact that listening allows me to get through many more books than reading, listening creates a more fulfilling, informative, and entertaining experience.
Posted on 4/5/22 at 11:05 am to Macavity92
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Quite often my recall is better listening than reading. Couple that with the fact that listening allows me to get through many more books than reading, listening creates a more fulfilling, informative, and entertaining experience.
Again, did you read the thread? That's not the points. If this were a "are there benefits to audiobooks" thread, then that would be a good point. Nobody, and I mean nobody, is denying that audiobooks have plenty of benefits for plenty of people.
Also, you contradicted your answer without even knowing it...
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Quite often my recall is better listening than reading. Couple that with the fact that listening allows me to get through many more books than reading
You view them as two separate things.
Posted on 4/6/22 at 2:12 pm to bayoubengals88
I only do non fiction and found I can get the same out of it depending on the topic
Posted on 4/6/22 at 9:36 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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Again, did you read the thread? That's not the points. If this were a "are there benefits to audiobooks" thread, then that would be a good point. Nobody, and I mean nobody, is denying that audiobooks have plenty of benefits for plenty of people. Also, you contradicted your answer without even knowing it...
Lord god, you are annoying.
No, I do not view them as two different things. You might want to “read” a few books on logic.
For the purposes of this thread the printed word and audiobooks have been separated as such so I have to address them that way. I view them as one in the same.
I read the thread. Audiobooks are reading. If you can’t see that, well, reread my first paragraph in this post.
Posted on 4/7/22 at 3:19 pm to Macavity92
I listen to about three books a week, I read about 1 a month. Regardless of the debate, without audiobooks my book consumption would fall off a cliff. I am a auditory learner and can listen to the books between 1.5 and 1.75 speed and still retain more that I can with traditional reading. But I’m ADD and I think the noise of hearing the book and processing it keeps my mind from wondering vs staining at a page and being distracted by background noise or my mind wondering.
I read a lot of science books. The subject matter, at least to me, lends itself well to the lecture type format of an audiobook.
I can agree with some comments above, I’ve started listening to some books and immediately stopped to try to find a different narrator version or a new book. The narrator makes all the difference.
I did one using both and have to say I can almost remember that whole book. So there is definitely something to that strategy.
I read a lot of science books. The subject matter, at least to me, lends itself well to the lecture type format of an audiobook.
I can agree with some comments above, I’ve started listening to some books and immediately stopped to try to find a different narrator version or a new book. The narrator makes all the difference.
I did one using both and have to say I can almost remember that whole book. So there is definitely something to that strategy.
Posted on 4/7/22 at 8:57 pm to bayoubengals88
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For listeners: Can you really do it and get a lot out of it?
I listen to books while im working. I routinely rewind when I get distracted and cant pay attention. On road trips, I totally get zoned in.
I never say "I read this book" I always say "I listened to that audiobook"
This post was edited on 4/7/22 at 8:58 pm
Posted on 4/8/22 at 10:53 am to Macavity92
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I read the thread. Audiobooks are reading. If you can’t see that, well, reread my first paragraph in this post.
Just scanning over the seven pages worth again, it looks like you're in the minority in that thinking. If you can't see that I'm clearly not the only one that feels that way, well, reread the thread.
Posted on 4/8/22 at 11:00 am to td1
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I listen to about three books a week
Whoa, that's awesome.
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. I am a auditory learner and can listen to the books between 1.5 and 1.75 speed and still retain more that I can with traditional reading. But I’m ADD and I think the noise of hearing the book and processing it keeps my mind from wondering vs staining at a page and being distracted by background noise or my mind wondering.
Since this thread, I've been trying audio books and I've learned I don't do as well with them. Two of the ones I tried it was definitely because of the narrator. Another I did ok with. The one I'm on now the narrator is great but I just really dislike the book. The next one I am going to try a book that I already have read and really like to see how I do with it. I drive a decent amount and listen to a good bit of podcasts and they keep my attention pretty well. But I find myself constantly hitting the 30 second backup button with audio books and I don't really know why. But I'm also not a that fast of a reader and I back up and read sentences/paragraphs again all the time. Maybe that's just how I am, regardless of audio or physical.
Posted on 4/8/22 at 4:15 pm to bayoubengals88
I haven’t read through the whole thread, but thought there was a good example I could provide.
First off, yes listening counts just as much as reading - the only difference is you’re using a different sense. Maybe it’s not for everyone, but Audible got me back into books is all I know after YEARS of being away because I couldn’t get into sitting and reading anymore. I grew up an avid reader. To each their own in that regard. I like being able to do other things as a listen - cook, clean, drive, exercise, etc.
I sometimes have a physical copy as well as I listen. Mostly for non-fiction so I can mark pages I’d like to refer back to later. Regardless, I can absolutely retain just as much either way. Maybe sometimes for fiction (I like sci-fi/fantasy) I’ll zone out for a minute and have to rewind, though I’ve always done that reading.
What sets some audiobooks apart is having a great (or poor) narrator which can make all the difference. I love the ones that have distinctive character voices, or occasionally even full productions like The Sandman, where I can really get a better sense of the characters than reading.
Now for an example, anyone mention Project Hail Mary? It’s a phenomenal novel so would be enjoyable to many in any form. Ray Porter is commonly referred to as one of the best narrators and he makes a huge difference here. I absolutely feel that those reading vs his audio are losing something special when it comes to Rocky, who he brings to life better than my mind ever could have before.
First off, yes listening counts just as much as reading - the only difference is you’re using a different sense. Maybe it’s not for everyone, but Audible got me back into books is all I know after YEARS of being away because I couldn’t get into sitting and reading anymore. I grew up an avid reader. To each their own in that regard. I like being able to do other things as a listen - cook, clean, drive, exercise, etc.
I sometimes have a physical copy as well as I listen. Mostly for non-fiction so I can mark pages I’d like to refer back to later. Regardless, I can absolutely retain just as much either way. Maybe sometimes for fiction (I like sci-fi/fantasy) I’ll zone out for a minute and have to rewind, though I’ve always done that reading.
What sets some audiobooks apart is having a great (or poor) narrator which can make all the difference. I love the ones that have distinctive character voices, or occasionally even full productions like The Sandman, where I can really get a better sense of the characters than reading.
Now for an example, anyone mention Project Hail Mary? It’s a phenomenal novel so would be enjoyable to many in any form. Ray Porter is commonly referred to as one of the best narrators and he makes a huge difference here. I absolutely feel that those reading vs his audio are losing something special when it comes to Rocky, who he brings to life better than my mind ever could have before.
Posted on 4/14/22 at 2:44 pm to Starchild
Just started Project Hail Mary on audible. This dude is incredible. His reading is very captivating. Andy Weir is obviously a pretty intelligent dude 
I finished The Tenant and my goodness I hated that book. The reader wasnt too bad, he was a British guy but I zoned out A LOT. Mainly because I could not stand the story. But I bought it and I got far enough I felt I had to finish it. It didnt improve.
I finished The Tenant and my goodness I hated that book. The reader wasnt too bad, he was a British guy but I zoned out A LOT. Mainly because I could not stand the story. But I bought it and I got far enough I felt I had to finish it. It didnt improve.
Posted on 4/14/22 at 4:25 pm to Starchild
Ray Porter is great. I loved his narration of The Martian, Project Hail Mary, and the Bobiverse series.
Posted on 4/14/22 at 7:13 pm to Auburn80
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Everybody has different learning styles. I enjoy audiobooks because the reader is usually very good and I retain it better. I also love listening in my truck on trips.
That’s great. But it doesn’t mean you are reading.
Posted on 4/15/22 at 6:35 am to bayoubengals88
I tend to lean towards thinking that reading > listening, but we should consider that for most of human history, story-telling was oral.
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