- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
Does Kentucky's recent history of quality NBA guards make you want to draft Cason Wallace?
Posted on 5/23/23 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 5/23/23 at 2:20 pm
This is a ridiculous list, and the sick thing is that they aren't regarded as can't miss prospects coming into the league. Only one was a top 5 pick.
1) Devin Booker
2) Jamal Murray
3) De'Aaron Fox
4) SGA
5) Tyrese Maxey
6) Immanuel Quickley
7) Tyler Herro
8) Malik Monk
I kinda think there's something here with the Kentucky offensive system making them undervalued in the draft process.
Enter Cason Wallace, who is a former 5 star recruit who is a great athlete/defender but needs a little offensive refinement. He might be shaping up to be the next Kentucky guard to outplay his draft position. I'd love to take him if he falls to 14, or maybe even a slight trade-up.
1) Devin Booker
2) Jamal Murray
3) De'Aaron Fox
4) SGA
5) Tyrese Maxey
6) Immanuel Quickley
7) Tyler Herro
8) Malik Monk
I kinda think there's something here with the Kentucky offensive system making them undervalued in the draft process.
Enter Cason Wallace, who is a former 5 star recruit who is a great athlete/defender but needs a little offensive refinement. He might be shaping up to be the next Kentucky guard to outplay his draft position. I'd love to take him if he falls to 14, or maybe even a slight trade-up.
4
Posted on 5/23/23 at 2:30 pm to DallasTiger45
Dude is an incredible player. I can see him going to Raptors/Thunders. Kind of reminds me of a taller Davion Mitchell.
I don’t think we will draft him though because we got Dyson Daniels. We need to find another perimeter shooter/flamethrower .
I don’t think we will draft him though because we got Dyson Daniels. We need to find another perimeter shooter/flamethrower .
Posted on 5/23/23 at 2:47 pm to duyp
quote:
I don’t think we will draft him though because we got Dyson Daniels. We need to find another perimeter shooter/flamethrower .
I agree that in a vacuum I'd love more shooting but drafting for need in the late lottery is a good way to get burned imo.
If Wallace were to get to 14 I think there's a good chance he's clearly BPA at that point. So passing on that is probably not smart.
Posted on 5/23/23 at 2:57 pm to DallasTiger45
Don't see any way he gets to 14. He's such a Toronto type of prospect. And with VanVleet possibly opting out this summer and Trent definitely leaving, they are not going to pass up Wallace.
Posted on 5/23/23 at 3:05 pm to DallasTiger45
There is no correlation to going to Kentucky and becoming a great player. They are all 5 star prospects that played a season. No body gets better during that season, because there is no time for that to occur. So where one and dones go to school is irrelevant..
Posted on 5/23/23 at 3:21 pm to DallasTiger45
Kentucky isn’t producing these guards. They are just a funnel from HS to the NBA
Posted on 5/23/23 at 3:21 pm to brmark70816
quote:
No body gets better during that season, because there is no time for that to occur. So where one and dones go to school is irrelevant..
I'm not talking about improving while being at a given school, I'm talking about getting the most out of your talent based on the surrounding talent, system, and coaching. And to that point, I'd say there's even more variance when it's just one season vs several in college.
Posted on 5/23/23 at 4:56 pm to DallasTiger45
If he was taller I’d be more interested. He could very well wind up being a good player but not a guy I’m in love with
This post was edited on 5/23/23 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 5/23/23 at 8:18 pm to Macintosh
He's taller and longer than the Pels starting point guard. The Pels have too much invested in the position plus I believe he will drafted earlier by the Jazz.
Posted on 5/23/23 at 8:35 pm to ErikGordan
Dude gives me jrue vibes
Posted on 5/23/23 at 8:57 pm to ErikGordan
quote:that’s not saying much lol. But yeah I doubt he’ll be there at 14
He's taller and longer than the Pels starting point guard.
Posted on 5/23/23 at 9:40 pm to brmark70816
quote:
There is no correlation to guards going to Kentucky and becoming a great NBA player.
edited a bit.
hmmm. I bet there's some.
but I'm not eliminating the usual evaluation.
Posted on 5/23/23 at 9:44 pm to Macintosh
If Cason is there, yea take him as BPA, (he got dat dawg in him + skill and poise).
Bilal Coulibaly is in play for the pick at 14, I'd think. Remember those rumors that Pels front office people were in France scouting Wemby? They probably got a close look at Coulibaly there. He has mega upside. Actually could even be picked by OKC or TOR at 12/13, seems like their kind of player archetype. But if he's there at 14, he should be the pick. Mini-Giannis.
Here's a new article write-up on Coulibaly in SLAM: LINK
Bilal Coulibaly is in play for the pick at 14, I'd think. Remember those rumors that Pels front office people were in France scouting Wemby? They probably got a close look at Coulibaly there. He has mega upside. Actually could even be picked by OKC or TOR at 12/13, seems like their kind of player archetype. But if he's there at 14, he should be the pick. Mini-Giannis.
Here's a new article write-up on Coulibaly in SLAM: LINK
Posted on 5/23/23 at 10:24 pm to CelticDog
quote:
hmmm. I bet there's some.
Obviously a lot of people agree with you for some reason. I don't see why where a one and done goes to school should affect his value or draft grade. I just looked at a mock for the next draft (24). Kentucky has two freshman guards mocked to go in the lottery. Are people projecting that Kentucky will develop them to that level? Or is it because they are top 5 prospects and it doesn't really matter where they go?
Posted on 5/23/23 at 11:20 pm to DLBalla
quote:
If Cason is there, yea take him as BPA, (he got dat dawg in him + skill and poise). Bilal Coulibaly is in play for the pick at 14, I'd think. Remember those rumors that Pels front office people were in France scouting Wemby? They probably got a close look at Coulibaly there. He has mega upside. Actually could even be picked by OKC or TOR at 12/13, seems like their kind of player archetype. But if he's there at 14, he should be the pick. Mini-Giannis
If Cason is the pick there will be no complaints from me. Idc what our guard rotation looks like, dude is a baller.
Bilal is intriguing no doubt, but I’d rather take a guy like lively over him
Posted on 5/24/23 at 6:38 am to VermilionTiger
quote:
There is no correlation to going to Kentucky and becoming a great player. They are all 5 star prospects that played a season. No body gets better during that season, because there is no time for that to occur. So where one and dones go to school is irrelevant..
quote:
Kentucky isn’t producing these guards. They are just a funnel from HS to the NBA
Why are y'all so salty about UK?
Also I think the point of OP was that the system at UK devalues their guards and presents a +EV opportunity in drafts (until the league adjusts) because that system takes some of the shine off super talented guys.
Posted on 5/24/23 at 7:27 am to brmark70816
quote:
I don't see why where a one and done goes to school should affect his value or draft grade. I just looked at a mock for the next draft (24). Kentucky has two freshman guards mocked to go in the lottery. Are people projecting that Kentucky will develop them to that level? Or is it because they are top 5 prospects and it doesn't really matter where they go?
So does the nba draft play out similarly to the top 10-20 high school prospects from the year before?
I"m not saying Kentucky is taking kids that are top 20 prospects and making them top 3, but they are obviously good at assessing talent and getting those kids ready for the NBA. Say what you want about Calipari, but just about all of his former players love him.
Do you think John Brady had something to do with developing Tyrus Thomas? These prospects are who they are, and for whatever reason more often than not these guards are going to Kentucky for a year and leaving Kentucky ready to break out in the NBA more often than not.
Yes i would take Cason Wallace for that reason.
Posted on 5/24/23 at 9:57 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
Why are y'all so salty about UK?
I went to LSU and I hate Kentucky. They are the epitome of front funners and so are their fans. I hold them responsible for spurring on the practices that have partially ruined competitive balance, which has harmed college basketball. Plus they are massively underachieving during Caliparis tenure. One national title and 6 final fours in 14 seasons, when they have an overwhelming talent advantage in 99% of the games they play.
quote:
Also I think the point of OP was that the system at UK devalues their guards and presents a +EV opportunity in drafts (until the league adjusts) because that system takes some of the shine off super talented guys.
They are known prospects with high draft grades. Some young players get exposed in that one year, so some slip a bit. But I don't believe it goes too far. I just don't see where the school is a factor. I'd never draft or not draft a guy cause of where he went to school and performance has almost no value. Talent is always the biggest factor..
Posted on 5/24/23 at 10:11 am to brmark70816
quote:
I just don't see where the school is a factor. I'd never draft or not draft a guy cause of where he went to school and performance has almost no value. Talent is always the biggest factor..
I'm more advocating for using the Kentucky thing as a tiebreaker FWIW. Not the main factor you rely on when drafting the guy. But if you like Keyonte George and Cason Wallace about the same...maybe the Kentucky thing pushes you over the edge to turn in the card with Wallace's name.
Posted on 5/24/23 at 12:15 pm to brmark70816
quote:Really? Your insight is second level. So, the fact that some schools recruit better and get better players is irrelevant. Or, that they have top facilities and coaches?
There is no correlation to going to Kentucky and becoming a great player. They are all 5 star prospects that played a season. No body gets better during that season, because there is no time for that to occur. So where one and dones go to school is irrelevant..
Page 1 of 2
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News