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The Draft is in 10 days. Do we see any major trades from us before it?
Posted on 6/12/23 at 11:29 am
Posted on 6/12/23 at 11:29 am
We've made some trades in the past few years leading up to the draft. Do we foresee anything like that this year?
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Posted on 6/12/23 at 11:30 am to Fun Bunch
I don't think so.
JVal is the only possibility, but even that I don't see it. I can't see anyone else that'll be traded if we're thinking major trades.
JVal is the only possibility, but even that I don't see it. I can't see anyone else that'll be traded if we're thinking major trades.
This post was edited on 6/12/23 at 11:31 am
Posted on 6/12/23 at 11:41 am to shel311
I would love a Dell Demps type trade. See if you can swap someone like Kira, Billy or Naji for a rotational player that fits one of our needs.
Posted on 6/12/23 at 11:49 am to Fun Bunch
I think they might trade down from 14
to save some salary if they don't love anyone at 14. but I don't think there will be any significant moves with personnel.
If they want a wing/shooter, I'd definitely trade down for a guy like Ben Sheppard. That guy is really underrated and we actually worked him out.
to save some salary if they don't love anyone at 14. but I don't think there will be any significant moves with personnel.
If they want a wing/shooter, I'd definitely trade down for a guy like Ben Sheppard. That guy is really underrated and we actually worked him out.
Posted on 6/12/23 at 11:52 am to Fun Bunch
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Do we see any major trades from us before it?
no... we really don't have any pieces to move... the ones we do have, we don't want to trade
Posted on 6/12/23 at 11:56 am to Fun Bunch
quote:Wow, I was wondering when the talk on the board would actually turn to the draft. I had gone into the draft almost assuming we would trade the 14 with some bench players in order to upgrade the bench (particularly shooting). However, the closer we get, I am thinking we may be willing to use the 14 for cost controlled big (Lively) or a bench scorer (Hawkins or Bufkin).
We've made some trades in the past few years leading up to the draft. Do we foresee anything like that this year?
Posted on 6/12/23 at 12:08 pm to NOSHAU
We're limited in the moves we can make. I think they draft someone like lively who can provide a needed skill immediately. Maybe we trade Naji or Billy for a 2nd if that's available.
Posted on 6/12/23 at 12:18 pm to Balsamic_duck
quote:Why would we trade Naji for a 2nd? He gives solid regular season minutes, there's a distinct value to that.
Maybe we trade Naji or Billy for a 2nd if that's available.
This post was edited on 6/12/23 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 6/12/23 at 12:49 pm to Fun Bunch
I don't see a big move like trading BI for #3, and we've talked ad nauseum about how there aren't any good JV trades out there. The one trade I can see with a decent chance of happening is #14 for #21 and #22, but trade one of the picks. One thing the Pels have shown to be good at multiple times is handicapping the draft and predicting who will fall. They did it with Jaxson and Trey.
The further back you get the harder it is, but if they can pull it off again and get a guy at 21 that they would also be happy to take at 14, then you have the ammo to turn Kira into something more useful. It may not be sexy, but Kira/Temple/Billy/#22 for Doug McDermott and 2nds would be useful.
The further back you get the harder it is, but if they can pull it off again and get a guy at 21 that they would also be happy to take at 14, then you have the ammo to turn Kira into something more useful. It may not be sexy, but Kira/Temple/Billy/#22 for Doug McDermott and 2nds would be useful.
This post was edited on 6/12/23 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 6/12/23 at 12:52 pm to shel311
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Why would we trade Naji for a 2nd?
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Posted on 6/12/23 at 1:02 pm to Fun Bunch
I think Naji would be a piece they attach to some contracts to upgrade the roster. Especially if they end up drafting another wing.
Posted on 6/12/23 at 1:18 pm to TigerinATL
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Kira/Temple/Billy/#22 for Doug McDermott and 2nds would be useful.
If we are set on doing something like that, I’d rather Olynyk than McDermott. I think we could probably get him for that same price, he can play a little center, and it would save us 1m too.
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Why would we trade Naji for a 2nd?
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That makes no sense, he costs 1.9m. That’s nothing
This post was edited on 6/12/23 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 6/12/23 at 1:25 pm to TigerinATL
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I don't see a big move like trading BI for #3, and we've talked ad nauseum about how there aren't any good JV trades out there.
Three years from now (maybe EVEN two)...I just don't see the Pels still having BOTH Zion & BI on their roster & if I had to guess, I'd say BI would be gone. I also assume CJ will be gone. So...would anybody besides me, consider trading BI for the #2 pick in the upcoming draft? I doubt BI's trade value will ever be higher than it is right now, as far as the Pels are concerned.
Posted on 6/12/23 at 1:26 pm to Baron
1.9 mil sure but he's also in a contract year and will be a UFA after the season. If they can use his contract to upgrade the team, i wouldn't hesitate to do it.
Posted on 6/12/23 at 1:28 pm to Fun Bunch
It is a money v competitiveness discussion. If you look at the landscape of the NBA it is tilting toward big lineups with 4-5s that can guard on the perimeter and either rim protect or anchor your defense. Denver has run roughshod through the West largely due to no one really having an answer for Gordon playing alongside Joker (along with having a 6'11 SF with MPJ).
Coach Green has to be prevented from playing wings as bigs (the biggest issue IMO in the 10-game losing streak that tanked the season) and there are not enough minutes at the 1-3 positions to give to a 14th. pick unless Dyson or Herb is part of a deal (yuck). I believe a smart move, considering salary constraints (have to pay Herb and TM3) is to acquire insurance for Zion at the 4 (Stewart from the Pistons?), move CJ to a sixth-man role to provide shooting off the bench, and drop down in the draft to acquire a developmental shooter(s). You stay under the cap (this year), address your post, shooting, and availability concerns, and have the flexibility to keep Herb and TM3.
Coach Green has to be prevented from playing wings as bigs (the biggest issue IMO in the 10-game losing streak that tanked the season) and there are not enough minutes at the 1-3 positions to give to a 14th. pick unless Dyson or Herb is part of a deal (yuck). I believe a smart move, considering salary constraints (have to pay Herb and TM3) is to acquire insurance for Zion at the 4 (Stewart from the Pistons?), move CJ to a sixth-man role to provide shooting off the bench, and drop down in the draft to acquire a developmental shooter(s). You stay under the cap (this year), address your post, shooting, and availability concerns, and have the flexibility to keep Herb and TM3.
Posted on 6/12/23 at 1:42 pm to Dinky Mulberry
quote:Would be a huge risk and the team would have to be completely sold on someone like Scoot.
Three years from now (maybe EVEN two)...I just don't see the Pels still having BOTH Zion & BI on their roster & if I had to guess, I'd say BI would be gone. I also assume CJ will be gone. So...would anybody besides me, consider trading BI for the #2 pick in the upcoming draft? I doubt BI's trade value will ever be higher than it is right now, as far as the Pels are concerned.
Posted on 6/12/23 at 1:46 pm to Fun Bunch
Zion for #2 pick and a big.
Posted on 6/12/23 at 2:00 pm to Dinky Mulberry
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if I had to guess, I'd say BI would be gone.
It's crazy where this fanbase is right now. A lot of people that normally I consider fairly rational seem to think their preferred direction is so obvious that they think the team has to see it too. Usually we get a lot more "I think the team should do this, but I know they won't."
People are saying a GM that likely is on the hot seat, or at least a warming seat, would make pre-emptive moves that might not ultimately pay off for 2 years, and makes the team worse in the short term. When has a GM of any team ever gone with a pre-emptive move over win now move unless they were doing a rebuild? I thought I was being a little out there thinking they would double down on internal growth and better injury luck by not overpaying for an "upgrade" to JV or Herb.
This post was edited on 6/12/23 at 2:01 pm
Posted on 6/12/23 at 2:04 pm to Fun Bunch
I don’t see a lot of realistic trades out there but Griff has shown a willingness to move tons of pieces and trade back if the opportunity is there.
A big trade to get Mikal Bridges would be wonderful but the Nets aren’t selling the last I heard.
A big trade to get Mikal Bridges would be wonderful but the Nets aren’t selling the last I heard.
Posted on 6/12/23 at 3:35 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:I don't follow. We still will fill out 15 roster spots, and his salary is dirt cheap.
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It's really not saving much money or potentially any money at all if you're turning around and giving a vet minimum contract to someone who isn't as good as Naji.
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