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25-06 no entry or exit wounds
Posted on 11/18/24 at 7:14 am
Posted on 11/18/24 at 7:14 am
He was a little high and caught one lung and the spine. The only blood was from its lungs out of his snout. I could not find an entry or exit wound through the fur. Myself and another adult looked every where. The bullet was lodged under the fur opposite side in what would be the “perfect spot”. Both front shoulders were spared. Both back straps were spared.
After field dressing you can see the smallest entrance wound through the top of the rib cage. Not one drop of blood on his fur and no discernible entrance hole.
How do you explain this? Clearly it sealed back up but I’ve never seen this before in 20 years deer hunting.
This post was edited on 11/18/24 at 7:18 am
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Posted on 11/18/24 at 7:19 am to Success
All I know is 30 years of shooting.25-06 Rem Core Lokts has been very successful. That bullet just knocks the snot out of them.
Posted on 11/18/24 at 7:25 am to Success
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no discernible entrance hole. How do you explain this?
You just didn’t see it I mean it’s only .25in on entry pretty easy to miss under some fat or muscle on the hide.
Posted on 11/18/24 at 7:25 am to Success
You had a small entrance wound.
I had a similar experience Saturday morning with a 7mm-08 and 139 SST. The doe kicked out, so I was fairly sure of a hit. No blood and I eventually walked up on her not far away. Entrance was a little high and no exit, as the bullet was against the hide on the off side. I’m looking at the thing laying there and can find no entrance wound. I finally did see one when I cranked her up at the skinning rack.
Sometimes it just goes like that. Congrats to your son on his kill.
I had a similar experience Saturday morning with a 7mm-08 and 139 SST. The doe kicked out, so I was fairly sure of a hit. No blood and I eventually walked up on her not far away. Entrance was a little high and no exit, as the bullet was against the hide on the off side. I’m looking at the thing laying there and can find no entrance wound. I finally did see one when I cranked her up at the skinning rack.
Sometimes it just goes like that. Congrats to your son on his kill.
Posted on 11/18/24 at 7:28 am to Success
Super easy to explain.. you have a 0.25" entry hole, bullet expansion, complete energy transfer from the bullet to the deer. I am sure the insides were mush.
You aren't going to get a lot of blood when the heart stops and the deer drops.
You aren't going to get a lot of blood when the heart stops and the deer drops.
This post was edited on 11/18/24 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 11/18/24 at 7:33 am to Success
High shots rarely bleed especially if they don’t run.
You almost definitely did not hit the lung and spine at 100 yards. You likely hit one and the wound cavity and hemoraging from the rifle round at high speed damaged the other.
Most rifle shots have a small entrance and bigger exit especially if bone is hit.
But if you want a lot of blood a low shot is best due to gravity.
You almost definitely did not hit the lung and spine at 100 yards. You likely hit one and the wound cavity and hemoraging from the rifle round at high speed damaged the other.
Most rifle shots have a small entrance and bigger exit especially if bone is hit.
But if you want a lot of blood a low shot is best due to gravity.
Posted on 11/18/24 at 7:35 am to mylsuhat
6.5mm is a .264. Like .264 WIN Mag and .
Posted on 11/18/24 at 7:39 am to mylsuhat
I’m sure you had a caliber brain fart, but the .25-06 is the capable little brother to the 257 WBY Magnum Death Ray. The most deadly round this side of a .470 Nitro Express.
Posted on 11/18/24 at 7:52 am to 257WBY
Thats right.. conversion error lol
The rest of the post remains accurate. When a round is stopped by the target and all that energy is transferred to that animal, it's going to cause a lot of damage and not a lot of blood
This is what happens when folks shoot deer head on in the chest, they see it drop but then takes off and they can't find it.
The rest of the post remains accurate. When a round is stopped by the target and all that energy is transferred to that animal, it's going to cause a lot of damage and not a lot of blood
This is what happens when folks shoot deer head on in the chest, they see it drop but then takes off and they can't find it.
Posted on 11/18/24 at 8:02 am to 257WBY
I have my 257 Robert’s sighted with 117 interlock handloads . They are very accurate but haven’t tested them on deer yet .
Posted on 11/18/24 at 8:23 am to Success
My oldest son shot a pretty heavy 8 point Saturday afternoon with a .30-06. Good shot placement and the buck dropped immediately. No more than 75 yards. We couldn't find an entrance or exit wound in the field. While skinning the deer we found the bullet lodged inside the opposite side hide. Lungs and heart were a mush. Didn't notice that it hit the ribs on either side. Shooting Remington core lokt ultra bonded 150 grains. The bullet was fully expanded in the hide. Not one drop of blood other than from its mouth. Just weird.
Posted on 11/18/24 at 9:35 am to Success
In other news OP, that looks like a nice and fat doe
Posted on 11/18/24 at 10:30 am to SoFla Tideroller
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All I know is 30 years of shooting.25-06 Rem Core Lokts has been very successful. That bullet just knocks the snot out of them.
This. I shot the 117 grain Hornady SST and had the same issue. I wouldn't get an exit wound. The bullet expelled all of it's energy within the animal, which is a good thing, but if they didn't drop then I would have a little hair and just a little bit of blood to go off of. I switched to the 120 grain core lokt 4 years ago and definitely prefer it over the Hornady SST.
Posted on 11/18/24 at 10:39 am to baldona
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a nice and fat doe
That doesn't look like a doe to me.
Plus the OP uses "his" several times in the post.
Posted on 11/18/24 at 10:45 am to Success
It’s a conundrum I’m dealing with now. Really destructive bullets liquify the chest, only exit about half the time, and don’t leave much blood occasionally. But the deer is always dead 0-40 yards away from the shot. It’s annoying but I haven’t lost a deer yet because of it.
Bullets that exit reliably like a monolithic bullet need a lot more horsepower to do a similar amount of damage to a unbonded cup and core bullet. I don’t shoot a 30-06 near as well as I can shoot a 243 or 6.5 manbun. It’s a tough choice, but I’m often reminded that shot placement is king.
Bullets that exit reliably like a monolithic bullet need a lot more horsepower to do a similar amount of damage to a unbonded cup and core bullet. I don’t shoot a 30-06 near as well as I can shoot a 243 or 6.5 manbun. It’s a tough choice, but I’m often reminded that shot placement is king.
Posted on 11/18/24 at 10:49 am to Success
quote:Perfection.
The bullet was lodged under the fur opposite side
Posted on 11/18/24 at 10:58 am to bigbuckdj
quote:
a conundrum I’m dealing with now. Really destructive bullets liquify the chest, only exit about half the time, and don’t leave much blood occasionally. But the deer is always dead 0-40 yards away from the shot. It’s annoying but I haven’t lost a deer yet because of it. Bullets that exit reliably like a monolithic bullet need a lot more horsepower to do a similar amount of damage to a unbonded cup and core bullet. I don’t shoot a 30-06 near as well as I can shoot a 243 or 6.5 manbun. It’s a tough choice, but I’m often reminded that shot placement is king
95% of the bad rap that a 6.5cr gets is because of that. Guy shoots a 30-06 with a fusion or a Barnes and it runs 80yd spraying blood and he says good job. Same guy shoots the same shot with a 6.5eldx or m and the deer runs 60yd without a drop of blood into a briar thicket and he can’t even tell where it was standing and finds it with a dog or buzzards and he says they are a 6.5 cripplemore.
It actually killed better than the 30-06 but he hates them!!!
Posted on 11/18/24 at 11:04 am to AlxTgr
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Perfection
Not for those of us who want blood trails.
I don’t mind tracking a deer, I actually enjoy it, but only if there’s some kind of blood trail to follow.
Posted on 11/18/24 at 11:11 am to mtb010
I think people downplay the CoreLokts because they've been around forever and shooters are like golfers. Always looking for the next big thing. But for OTC hunting rounds I don't think they can be beat
Posted on 11/18/24 at 11:20 am to upgrade
quote:Tracking a deer after a perfect rifle shot? I've never had to do it
Not for those of us who want blood trails.
I don’t mind tracking a deer, I actually enjoy it, but only if there’s some kind of blood trail to follow.
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