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Posted on 9/23/25 at 7:41 am
Posted by RunninReb
Member since Feb 2023
421 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 7:41 am
While our city leaders like to compare BR to more established markets like Austin, Nashville and Birmingham it is clear none of those cities should be mentioned in the same breath.

I asked GROK who the peer cities are for Baton Rouge based on some obvious factors...

What we get are Shreveport, Jackson MS and Mobile AL.

yikes...



### Overview of Baton Rouge, LA
Baton Rouge is the capital of Louisiana, with a city population of approximately 224,000 (metro area ~870,000). Its economy is driven by petrochemicals, manufacturing, education (e.g., Louisiana State University), and government, resulting in a moderate GDP profile. Key characteristics include:
- **Economy/GDP**: The Baton Rouge metro area's GDP was approximately $48.5 billion in 2023 (ranked around 60th among U.S. metros). Median household income: ~$50,000; poverty rate: ~25%; unemployment: ~4-5%.
- **Demographics**: Predominantly Black or African American (51%), White (36%), Hispanic/Latino (7%), Asian (4%). Median age: 32 (young, skewed by university students). High diversity but notable income inequality.
- **Quality of Life**: Affordable housing (median home value ~$223,000) and cost of living (~15% below national average), but challenged by higher crime rates, moderate air quality (AQI ~100 in 2023), hurricane risks, and limited public transit. Ranks mid-to-low in national livability indices (e.g., ~150th in U.S. News Best Places for Quality of Life).

To identify the most similar U.S. city, I compared mid-sized metros (populations 200,000–1 million) using data from the U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA), Census Bureau, and livability rankings (e.g., U.S. News, Numbeo, Milken Institute). Similarity was assessed across GDP scale/economic structure, demographic composition (age, race, income), and QoL metrics (affordability, safety, health/environment).

### Comparison of Top Contenders
I shortlisted cities frequently cited as similar in Southern U.S. contexts (e.g., state capitals with energy/education sectors). The table below highlights key metrics for Baton Rouge and three close matches: Shreveport, LA; Jackson, MS; and Mobile, AL. These were selected for their Southern industrial bases, diverse demographics, and comparable affordability/challenges.

| Metric | Baton Rouge, LA (Metro) | Shreveport, LA (Metro) | Jackson, MS (Metro) | Mobile, AL (Metro) |
|-------------------------|--------------------------------|------------------------|---------------------|--------------------|
| **Population (City/Metro, 2023)** | 224k / 870k | 187k / 393k | 149k / 582k | 184k / 429k |
| **GDP (2023, $B)** | 48.5 (Rank ~60) | 29.1 (Rank ~80) | 39.2 (Rank ~70) | 27.8 (Rank ~85) |
| **Economic Drivers** | Petrochemicals, education, govt | Manufacturing, healthcare, logistics | Government, education, auto | Shipbuilding, aerospace, port |
| **Median Household Income** | $50k | $48k | $45k | $49k |
| **Poverty Rate** | 25% | 24% | 27% | 23% |
| **Racial Breakdown** | 51% Black, 36% White, 7% Hispanic | 49% Black, 45% White, 4% Hispanic | 78% Black, 18% White, 3% Hispanic | 44% Black, 48% White, 6% Hispanic |
| **Median Age** | 32 | 36 | 34 | 37 |
| **QoL Rank (U.S. News 2025)** | ~150th (mid-low) | ~160th (mid-low) | ~180th (low) | ~140th (mid) |
| **Key QoL Factors** | Affordable (~15% below avg); high crime; AQI 100; commute 25 min | Affordable (~20% below avg); similar crime; AQI 90; commute 22 min | Very affordable (~25% below avg); high crime; AQI 85; commute 23 min | Affordable (~18% below avg); moderate crime; AQI 95; commute 24 min |
| **Overall Similarity Score** (out of 10; weighted: 40% econ, 30% demo, 30% QoL) | - | 8.5 | 7.8 | 8.2 |

### Closest Match: Shreveport, LA
**Shreveport** most closely resembles Baton Rouge across all three criteria.
- **Economic GDP**: Both are Louisiana metros with energy/manufacturing-heavy economies and similar GDP scales (~$30–50B range). Shreveport's logistics and healthcare sectors mirror Baton Rouge's diversification from petrochemicals, with comparable low-to-moderate growth (2–3% annually) and income levels.
- **Demographics**: Nearly identical racial diversity (high Black population, balanced White minority), young-to-middle median age, and poverty/income profiles. Both have university influences (e.g., Louisiana Tech in Shreveport) driving youthful demographics.
- **Quality of Life**: Shared Southern affordability, environmental challenges (e.g., humidity, occasional flooding), and urban issues like crime and limited transit. Both rank similarly in livability indices, with strong community ties but room for improvement in safety and infrastructure.

While in the same state (potentially too similar for some), Shreveport offers a "twin city" feel—compact, culturally vibrant (e.g., casinos, festivals), and economically intertwined via Louisiana's oil/gas sector—without the exact same metro overlap.

#### Alternatives If Seeking Out-of-State
- **Mobile, AL**: Strong runner-up for its port-driven economy (similar to Baton Rouge's river trade) and balanced demographics. Slightly older population and better safety rankings make it a "polished" version.
- **Jackson, MS**: Best for demographic match (highest Black population among peers) but lags in GDP scale and has lower QoL due to infrastructure strains.

These similarities stem from shared Southern industrial histories, but all face climate vulnerabilities. For relocation, consider visiting—Shreveport's riverfront vibe echoes Baton Rouge's Mississippi charm. Data sources include BEA (GDP), U.S. Census (demographics), and U.S. News/Lawnstarter (QoL).
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
Member since Aug 2023
8903 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 7:52 am to
One of the best things a southern city like Baton Rogue can do is make its downtown nice and do the whole loft apartments/brewery/coffee shops/shopping song and dance.

It's kind of corny, but at least there's an island of nice things among a sea of strip malls and gas stations and Churchs Chickens and Section 8 hood neighborhoods.

A revitalized downtown is really good for civic pride and it gives people somewhere to go when they have family or company from out of town and want to take them somewhere.

Posted by madamsquirrel
The big somewhere out there
Member since Jul 2009
55682 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 8:04 am to
It seemed like it was starting to happen before Jindal ruined the movie industry and everything Kip Holden did was undone
Posted by metallica81788
NO
Member since Sep 2008
10218 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 8:04 am to
quote:

One of the best things a southern city like Baton Rogue can do is make its downtown nice and do the whole loft apartments/brewery/coffee shops/shopping song and dance.

It's kind of corny, but at least there's an island of nice things among a sea of strip malls and gas stations and Churchs Chickens and Section 8 hood neighborhoods.

A revitalized downtown is really good for civic pride and it gives people somewhere to go when they have family or company from out of town and want to take them somewhere.


Well good thing BR got this memo
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
14979 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 8:05 am to
Always shake my head in disbelief when City government compares itself to other cities of alleged type....'we need more $$$$$ to keep up with Omaha...."...are you kidding me? Nope, they aren't.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
34669 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 8:08 am to
It's Little Rock
Posted by Beef Supreme
Member since Apr 2008
2383 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 8:09 am to
We have a glaring problem that we cant discuss. And its not going away.
Posted by andwesway
Zachary, LA
Member since Jun 2016
2922 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 8:14 am to
Grok isn't very reliable. Perplexity says Birmingham, Alabama; Cleveland, Ohio; Columbia, South Carolina; Columbus, Georgia; Jackson, Mississippi; New Haven, Connecticut; and New Orleans, Louisiana.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
38543 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 8:21 am to
Thay isn't much better and still accurate.
Posted by CapitalTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Sep 2019
352 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 8:38 am to
quote:

A revitalized downtown is really good for civic pride and it gives people somewhere to go when they have family or company from out of town and want to take them somewhere.


Kip Holden did this and both “sides” got mad. The Woody Jenkins/Central/St. George types complained about thier money going to stuff they wouldn’t use and the NBR grifters complained about money being spent downtown instead of on midnight basketball.

So Broome came in, cracked down on open container laws to spite John Delgado - and funded more community programs.

Then you saw downtown deteriorate.

Now you have the other side of the coin in Sid Edwards.

We need more Kip Holden’s leading cities across the country. People like him who actually give a damn about where they live and making it a better place to work and raise a family.
This post was edited on 9/23/25 at 12:58 pm
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
23545 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 8:51 am to
quote:

It seemed like it was starting to happen before Jindal ruined the movie industry and everything Kip Holden did was undone


I think the majority of the blame falls squarely on Sharon Broome but whatever
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
130112 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 8:55 am to
quote:

What we get are Shreveport, Jackson MS and Mobile AL.


Mobile is far better than BR

Maybe Montgomery is a better comparison
Posted by slidingstop
Member since Jan 2025
1910 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 8:57 am to
quote:

It seemed like it was starting to happen before Jindal ruined the movie industry


link?

I'm all for putting Pyush on blast, but I believe the demolition of the movie industry was more an act of the legislature. Those MFr's realized they were missing out on some tax money and quickly moved to eliminate film tax credits. It was championed by many on this very site, as well. Jindal may have participated, but he didn't act alone.

Put the blame where it belongs.

AS to peer cities, BR has had Austin envy since at least the 90s. I forget how many trips city leaders took to Austin salavating at the idea BR could replicate it. LOfrickingL. This dump has continued its slide into the abyss of democrat-led hellscapes and it will never be more than a dump. Gerry mandered, democrat run cities are destined to be shite-holes.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
54800 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 8:59 am to
Had Baton Rouge had any foresight 30 years ago than maybe you could have some sort of comparison with Austin or Nashville

Probably closer to Birmingham
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
73597 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:09 am to
Great Wall of Ampersands!!!
quote:




Post better or post less.
Posted by LSU-MNCBABY
Knightsgate
Member since Jan 2004
25212 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:13 am to
Baton Rouge’s major problem is the corruption and people not demanding better.

Once you get out of there you wonder what took you so long to leave.

It’s wild the cost of living too just to be in a city that provides no value, is full of crime, dirty, pollution and some of the worst traffic in the country.

Sure there are pockets you can hide and somewhat escape some of it, but you’re still subjected to most of the problems even in those locations
Posted by yaboidarrell
westbank
Member since Feb 2017
6380 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:17 am to
quote:

While our city leaders like to compare BR to more established markets like Austin, Nashville and Birmingham
Birmingham doesn’t belong in the same category as Austin or Nashville.
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
9255 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:50 am to
Mobile is the “polished” version of BR according to AI. That’s questionable. Otherwise, I agree with AI on its other comparisons.
This post was edited on 9/23/25 at 9:51 am
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
38468 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 10:02 am to
quote:

A revitalized downtown is really good for civic pride and it gives people somewhere to go when they have family or company from out of town and want to take them somewhere.

Baton Rouge has been there and done that. It lasted a few years and then went back to crap.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
49041 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 10:10 am to
quote:

Great Wall of Ampersands!!!

Uhhhh

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