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CBS: How the Saints should handle the first round
Posted on 10/3/25 at 11:37 am
Posted on 10/3/25 at 11:37 am
1. New Orleans Saints (0-4)
On a scale of 1-10, how bad do they need a QB: "8 … but buyer beware"
We know they need a quarterback because they drafted Tyler Shough 40th overall back in April. He has yet to see the field (save mop-up duty in a blowout loss) because 2024 fifth-rounder Spencer Rattler has started the first four games. And in Rattler's defense, he's been fine -- he ranks 22nd in EPA per dropback, between Aaron Rodgers and Michael Penix Jr., so yeah, it could be a lot worse. The problem is that the offense is managing just 16.5 points per game, which ranks 28th in the league. He also has only one (!!) play this season of more than 25+ yards, which ranks dead last and they've been abysmal on third down. The defense, meanwhile, gives up more than 30 points a game, is among the worst in the league at allowing big plays and can't get off the field on third down.
What should they do?
Knowing the issues facing both the offense and defense should help inform our decision here. It's also worth noting that coach Kellen Moore didn't draft Rattler, and although he did draft Shough, neither was a first-round pick, which makes them easier to move on from.
But here's the thing: this 2026 QB class is so wide open that I'm not sure any of them are a slam-dunk improvement over the status quo in New Orleans, so it's worth blowing the first-overall pick on one of them. The Saints have needs along the offense line, at wide receiver, tight end and edge rusher, and while it's easy to declare, "Hey, just trade down and enjoy!" that requires a partner willing to trade up.
Put another way, unless Mendoza or Moore or Nussmeier or someone else clearly differentiates themselves from the pack -- and it doesn't have to be a Joe Burrow "Not even the Bengals can mess this up" situation, but a "Hey, Cam Ward is legit and a clearcut No. 1 pick"-type of thing -- if I'm the Saints, I would draft Miami edge rusher Rueben Bain Jr. and get on with my day. Bain Jr. is the walking embodiment of what unblockable looks like. I liked him a lot during summer scouting, and he's exceeded every expectation by a large margin.
The other thing to keep in mind is that Moore has a good track record with young passers. But it doesn't matter how much of a QB whisperer you may be, if you don't have players around him, it won't matter. This class is uniquely different from previous ones in that there could be four or five quarterbacks clustered together in the late-first/early Day 2 range, which further reinforces the idea of not reaching for one of them because there will be two or three others available later in the draft.
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On a scale of 1-10, how bad do they need a QB: "8 … but buyer beware"
We know they need a quarterback because they drafted Tyler Shough 40th overall back in April. He has yet to see the field (save mop-up duty in a blowout loss) because 2024 fifth-rounder Spencer Rattler has started the first four games. And in Rattler's defense, he's been fine -- he ranks 22nd in EPA per dropback, between Aaron Rodgers and Michael Penix Jr., so yeah, it could be a lot worse. The problem is that the offense is managing just 16.5 points per game, which ranks 28th in the league. He also has only one (!!) play this season of more than 25+ yards, which ranks dead last and they've been abysmal on third down. The defense, meanwhile, gives up more than 30 points a game, is among the worst in the league at allowing big plays and can't get off the field on third down.
What should they do?
Knowing the issues facing both the offense and defense should help inform our decision here. It's also worth noting that coach Kellen Moore didn't draft Rattler, and although he did draft Shough, neither was a first-round pick, which makes them easier to move on from.
But here's the thing: this 2026 QB class is so wide open that I'm not sure any of them are a slam-dunk improvement over the status quo in New Orleans, so it's worth blowing the first-overall pick on one of them. The Saints have needs along the offense line, at wide receiver, tight end and edge rusher, and while it's easy to declare, "Hey, just trade down and enjoy!" that requires a partner willing to trade up.
Put another way, unless Mendoza or Moore or Nussmeier or someone else clearly differentiates themselves from the pack -- and it doesn't have to be a Joe Burrow "Not even the Bengals can mess this up" situation, but a "Hey, Cam Ward is legit and a clearcut No. 1 pick"-type of thing -- if I'm the Saints, I would draft Miami edge rusher Rueben Bain Jr. and get on with my day. Bain Jr. is the walking embodiment of what unblockable looks like. I liked him a lot during summer scouting, and he's exceeded every expectation by a large margin.
The other thing to keep in mind is that Moore has a good track record with young passers. But it doesn't matter how much of a QB whisperer you may be, if you don't have players around him, it won't matter. This class is uniquely different from previous ones in that there could be four or five quarterbacks clustered together in the late-first/early Day 2 range, which further reinforces the idea of not reaching for one of them because there will be two or three others available later in the draft.
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Posted on 10/3/25 at 12:41 pm to hsfolk
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Nussmeier
We can safely rule this one out.
Posted on 10/3/25 at 1:22 pm to hsfolk
Im leaning towards vamping up our defense and finding a Baker Mayfield diamond in the rough. Maybe get a WR early.
Posted on 10/3/25 at 1:29 pm to SEC Doctor
quote:
We can safely rule this one out.
Lulz
Posted on 10/3/25 at 1:30 pm to hsfolk
Need to just build up their offensive ans defensive lines first
Posted on 10/3/25 at 1:31 pm to hsfolk
There's a good bit of quality pass rushers, anyone of those and just move on in my opinion
Posted on 10/3/25 at 3:33 pm to htran90
I like both Bain and Keldric Faulk from Auburn
Posted on 10/3/25 at 3:37 pm to hsfolk
draft SEC linemen. no gay conferences.
This post was edited on 10/3/25 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 10/3/25 at 3:40 pm to SEC Doctor
quote:
Nussmeier
We can safely rule this one out.
Let's circle back after his injury recovery, but he had looked arse so far.
Posted on 10/3/25 at 4:22 pm to hsfolk
quote:
thing -- if I'm the Saints, I would draft Miami edge rusher Rueben Bain Jr. and get on with my day. Bain Jr. is the walking embodiment of what unblockable looks like.
So exactly what I said we should do earlier in the week….
Wonder if he reads this message board.
Posted on 10/3/25 at 4:27 pm to Barbellthor
quote:
Let's circle back after his injury recovery, but he had looked arse so far.
Maybe a day 2 (3rd round) pick.
Posted on 10/3/25 at 7:39 pm to hsfolk
Not convinced any of the college QBs are worthy of top 5.
I say trade down and accumulate as many picks as possible.
At least try to pick up an extra 1st round for 2027
I say trade down and accumulate as many picks as possible.
At least try to pick up an extra 1st round for 2027
This post was edited on 10/3/25 at 7:40 pm
Posted on 10/3/25 at 7:54 pm to Ryan3232
That’s definitely easier said than done…
Posted on 10/3/25 at 8:28 pm to Barbellthor
quote:
Let's circle back after his injury recovery, but he had looked arse so far.
Also are the rumors that he hasn't put in nearly the same amount of film study as Burrow or Daniel's had. Don't know if it is true, but if so that changes things.
Posted on 10/3/25 at 8:30 pm to Barbellthor
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Let's circle back after his injury recovery
Your blaming his injury? Nuss is terrible. Lsu fans are one of a kind
This post was edited on 10/3/25 at 8:31 pm
Posted on 10/3/25 at 8:44 pm to whodat22
we all know what we need to do.
Posted on 10/4/25 at 3:27 am to Chrome
quote:
the rumors that he hasn't put in nearly the same amount of film study as Burrow or Daniel's
Have literally never heard that.
Posted on 10/4/25 at 3:30 am to whodat22
quote:
Your blaming his injury?
It's been confirmed for multiple games now. Been dealing with it since the summer. He couldn't get the ball accurate past 15 yards, floating ducks, and that's been the story all season. Nuss was not arse last year, thus the Heisman hype. You people are some kind of special.
Posted on 10/4/25 at 7:44 am to hsfolk
I don’t think we can say for sure we need a QB until we see Shough.
Moore liked his game enough to take him pretty high, let’s run him out there and see what he offers.
ETA: I’m not saying Shough is the savior. I’m saying we need to find out what he is before mock drafting.
Moore liked his game enough to take him pretty high, let’s run him out there and see what he offers.
ETA: I’m not saying Shough is the savior. I’m saying we need to find out what he is before mock drafting.
This post was edited on 10/4/25 at 7:59 am
Posted on 10/4/25 at 8:17 am to Ryan3232
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finding a Baker Mayfield diamond in the rough
No offense, but what planet do you people live on? Diamond in the rough top 10-12 QBs don't just exist when you need them year to year.
We should try not drafting a 2nd round guy who clearly won't be the long term answer in favor of any other position other than kicker/punter
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