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2025 NFL Rookie Class Rankings
Posted on 1/14/26 at 9:12 am
Posted on 1/14/26 at 9:12 am
I owe an apology to the Saints front office. While we were shitting all over Mickey (rightfully so at the time), he may have drafted another 2017 type class again.
Ranking 2025 NFL rookie classes:
Ranking 2025 NFL rookie classes:
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The Saints' rookie class is headlined by second-round quarterback Tyler Shough, who ranked 21st with a 49.2 QBR in nine starts. That's not quite "the Saints are set for years" territory, but Shough has certainly earned the right to come back and try to improve as the starter. (Just remember that he's already 26 years old.) Shough's blind side was protected by first-round left tackle Kelvin Banks Jr., who started all 17 games. He ranked above average in run block win rate (75.6%), although he was below average in pass block win rate (87.7%). Then we go to the defensive side of the ball, where the Saints improved to a surprising 13th in defensive DVOA this season. In Ben Solak's All-Rookie team, he highlighted third-round pick Jonas Sanker as a premier communicator and coverage player who made plays from sideline to sideline. Fourth-rounder Quincy Riley, the team's third cornerback, was above average in my coverage DVOA metric and started five games. Another fourth-round pick, linebacker Danny Stutsman, didn't start any games but had 53 combined tackles. Next season, the Saints will also get back third-round defensive tackle Vernon Broughton, who suffered a season-ending hip injury in Week 2.
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Posted on 1/14/26 at 9:21 am to saints5021
Anytime we have an amazing draft class it is never because of Mickey. Anytime we have a shitty one it is only because of Mickey.
Sincerely,
Saints Talk Idiots
Sincerely,
Saints Talk Idiots
Posted on 1/14/26 at 9:22 am to saints5021
To be consistent; I am pretty sure there were many people shitting on Loomis shortly after the 2017 draft too.
Don't recall the favorite pick, but many demanded White over Latt. Were they wanting Foster at this pick?
People were pissed when the team missed on Foster when they drafted Ram
If I recall correctly, AK was a reach
Analzone - was liked, but injury concerns - justified
Don't recall a lot of love for Hendrickson or Muhammad. But Muhammad was a 6th, so outside of drafting from favorite teams, this is pretty consistent.
Don't recall the favorite pick, but many demanded White over Latt. Were they wanting Foster at this pick?
People were pissed when the team missed on Foster when they drafted Ram
If I recall correctly, AK was a reach
Analzone - was liked, but injury concerns - justified
Don't recall a lot of love for Hendrickson or Muhammad. But Muhammad was a 6th, so outside of drafting from favorite teams, this is pretty consistent.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 9:26 am to Weekend Warrior79
If 2017 was Rueben Foster, yeah a shite ton of people lost their minds we didn't take him. xD
Kamara wasn't because of the reach factor, it's because we traded a 2018 2nd rounder and people were confused why you trade a 2nd for a 3rd.
Kamara wasn't because of the reach factor, it's because we traded a 2018 2nd rounder and people were confused why you trade a 2nd for a 3rd.
This post was edited on 1/14/26 at 9:28 am
Posted on 1/14/26 at 9:33 am to Weekend Warrior79
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If I recall correctly, AK was a reach
Pretty sure we traded up.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 9:36 am to bonethug0180
quote:Didn’t San Fran jump us for Foster and everyone was pissed off (likely myself included) then we drafted Ram as the fallback? I could be misremembering.
If 2017 was Rueben Foster, yeah a shite ton of people lost their minds we didn't take him. xD
Posted on 1/14/26 at 9:42 am to drizztiger
I believe they did jump us, but there was conflicting info out there about circumstances behind things.
But I was extremely grateful we didn't end up with him, whether we wanted him or not. People truly didn't understand how bad his off field was, nor how dangerous to his own health his style of play was. One way or another I said he wouldn't even last 3 years.
But I was extremely grateful we didn't end up with him, whether we wanted him or not. People truly didn't understand how bad his off field was, nor how dangerous to his own health his style of play was. One way or another I said he wouldn't even last 3 years.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 9:43 am to St Augustine
quote:We traded a 2018 2nd for a 2017 3rd. Not really "up", but yeah that is why people lost their shite.
Pretty sure we traded up.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 9:43 am to bonethug0180
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Kamara wasn't because of the reach factor, it's because we traded a 2018 2nd rounder and people were confused why you trade a 2nd for a 3rd.
That's right. I just remember watching in a friend's bar and the overall reaction for the night. Could not recall the specifics.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 9:46 am to bonethug0180
Yeah, we definitely caught a break. For some reason I’m remembering Payton really wanted him and did the most Payton thing ever and told everyone that would listen.
That’s probably about when I stopped projecting NFL draft success. It’s a crapshoot for the professionals, let alone the general fan.
That’s probably about when I stopped projecting NFL draft success. It’s a crapshoot for the professionals, let alone the general fan.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 9:47 am to saints5021
Adding Broughton next year is like getting another draft pick.. unless he got the Bo Jackson hip injury
Posted on 1/14/26 at 9:53 am to drizztiger
quote:This is where some reports are conflicting, and we get into the whole smokescreen thing. If you want someone THAT bad, why advertise it in such a way. If you aren't on the clock yet, why are you calling someone you want to pick.
For some reason I’m remembering Payton really wanted him and did the most Payton thing ever and told everyone that would listen.
Either Payton was extremely smart or extremely stupid about the whole thing. There is no middle ground.
Also, yeah you can do all the homework on these guys you want, but there is an infinite number of outside factors that come into play that will help a pick be more or less successful, starting with the team that drafts them, the coaching staff, other players on the team, etc before even getting into the off field stuff.
This post was edited on 1/14/26 at 9:56 am
Posted on 1/14/26 at 10:06 am to saints5021
They didn't even mention Devin Neal in their blurb about our class - he looked pretty damn good when his number was called this year too.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 10:29 am to saints5021
is ESPN still trying to justify QBR as a stat? 
Posted on 1/14/26 at 10:31 am to saintsfan92612
Yes! xD
Posted on 1/14/26 at 10:36 am to bonethug0180
quote:and they had just signed Adrian Peterson.
Kamara wasn't because of the reach factor, it's because we traded a 2018 2nd rounder and people were confused why you trade a 2nd for a 3rd.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 10:40 am to bonethug0180
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believe they did jump us, but there was conflicting info out there about circumstances behind things.
I read somewhere Payton would’ve selected foster in that draft
Posted on 1/14/26 at 11:19 am to bonethug0180
Until it’s proven otherwise I’ll continue to believe Loomis only selects the people who select the players. That is a year round grinder 24-7 job. Mickey is not doing that crap.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 12:22 pm to goatmilker
I don't disagree, but like you said he hires/fires the staff who puts in the most work on it and the coaching staff, so even if you don't credit/fault Loomis directly for the drafts, he still has a hand in it.
I don't believe he is unattached to the evaluations and such, and does have input during the drafts (from everything I've heard it was always a team effort when making the choices), but no I don't believe he is doing the evaluations himself, so he can only go off of the staff he hired to do that job.
I don't believe he is unattached to the evaluations and such, and does have input during the drafts (from everything I've heard it was always a team effort when making the choices), but no I don't believe he is doing the evaluations himself, so he can only go off of the staff he hired to do that job.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 12:27 pm to goatmilker
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continue to believe Loomis only selects the people who select the players.
Pretty sure during one of the Payton year PC’s he said they all collaborate on the decision
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