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If you’re going to call me fascist anyway

Posted on 1/16/26 at 11:06 am
Posted by Geekboy
Member since Jan 2004
7498 posts
Posted on 1/16/26 at 11:06 am
If You’re Going To Call Me Fascist Anyway

“ At some point, repetition becomes instruction. When you’re told often enough that holding a handful of conservative views makes you a Nazi or a fascist, you start to wonder whether anyone still remembers what those words mean. I certainly don’t hear them used with historical precision. I hear them used as shortcuts—verbal airhorns deployed to end a conversation before it begins.

So fine. I give up.

I am now, apparently, whatever you’ve decided I am.

Not because I believe in authoritarianism, racial supremacy, or the state crushing dissent—those are real, ugly doctrines with real victims—but because the modern political vocabulary has become so degraded that disagreement itself is treated as extremism. When every boundary is crossed rhetorically, labels lose their diagnostic value and become costumes thrown at opponents.

Let’s look at what actually earns me these titles.

I believe borders should exist and be enforced. That used to be called “national sovereignty,” not fascism. I believe a country has the right—and obligation—to know who is entering it, under what conditions, and in what numbers. This is not radical; it is how functional states operate, including most progressive European ones.

I believe crime should be prosecuted and that law enforcement, while imperfect and in need of oversight, is necessary. That doesn’t mean blind loyalty to police misconduct. It means acknowledging that order is a prerequisite for liberty, not its enemy. A society that cannot enforce its laws selectively enforces them—and that is far closer to authoritarianism than insisting they be applied evenly.

I believe biological sex is real and relevant in certain contexts, particularly medicine and sports. This is not a moral crusade against anyone’s dignity; it is a factual claim with practical implications. Pretending that observable reality is bigotry does not advance compassion—it corrodes trust in institutions that rely on evidence.

I believe free speech includes the right to say things that offend powerful cultural orthodoxies. Once speech is judged not by its truth or falsity but by whether it causes “harm” as defined by the loudest activists, censorship follows naturally. History is unambiguous on this point: speech controls never stay limited to the “bad people.”

I believe economic systems should reward work, innovation, and responsibility while providing a safety net that does not metastasize into permanent dependency. That balance is difficult, but rejecting it outright in favor of ideological purity has consequences—usually for the people least able to absorb them.

For holding these positions, I am told—confidently, casually—that I am a fascist.

So here’s the punchline: if every disagreement is fascism, then fascism becomes meaningless. And if the label is unavoidable, it loses its power to shame.

In that narrow, ironic sense only, I now “embrace” it—not as an ideology, but as evidence of rhetorical exhaustion. I wear the label the way one wears a warning sticker placed by someone who ran out of arguments.

Call me whatever you need to call me. I’ll continue to argue for limited government, equal application of the law, free expression, and reality-based policy. If those positions now qualify as Nazism in the modern political imagination, the problem is not with the positions.

It’s with the imagination.

And yes—since the labels are apparently mandatory—I’ll wear them proudly, not as admissions of guilt, but as proof that the words no longer mean what they once did.”
Posted by tketaco
Sunnyside, Houston
Member since Jan 2010
21552 posts
Posted on 1/16/26 at 11:32 am to
Gonna need to lose some we9ght to fit into my Nazi Uniform. Probably do 3 sets of 20 Rail Car Shuffles.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
35910 posts
Posted on 1/16/26 at 12:46 pm to
quote:

I believe borders should exist and be enforced. That used to be called “national sovereignty,” not fascism. I believe a country has the right—and obligation—to know who is entering it, under what conditions, and in what numbers. This is not radical; it is how functional states operate, including most progressive European ones.

The Clintons, the Obamas, the Bidens, the Bushes, the Kennedys and almost every Liberal Congress member have ALL believed these same things during this century, and are on record about it.

So that makes them Nazis too, does it not?

And by default, does that not also make everyone who voted for them "Nazis" as well? By the standards being shown to me through legacy media outlets today, this seems like a plausible conclusion.
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3853 posts
Posted on 1/16/26 at 12:52 pm to
The five stages of fascism, as outlined by Robert Paxton, include:
1) Intellectual exploration, where disillusionment with democracy begins;
2) Rooting, where the movement gains a foothold amid political deadlock;
3) Acquisition of power, where conservatives invite fascists to share power;
4) Exercise of power, where the fascist movement controls the state; and
5) Radicalization or entropy, where the regime either intensifies its actions or settles into routine authoritarianism.

This framework highlights the complex and evolving nature of fascist movements.

The Five Stages of Fascism
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57875 posts
Posted on 1/16/26 at 12:55 pm to
I’d say you far left wackos are somewhere between 3 and 4.
Posted by Boston911
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2013
2363 posts
Posted on 1/16/26 at 12:55 pm to
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Posted by Geekboy
I like this guy! Have an upvote!
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
33101 posts
Posted on 1/16/26 at 12:56 pm to
quote:

The five stages of fascism, as outlined by Robert Paxton, include:
1) Intellectual exploration, where disillusionment with democracy begins;
2) Rooting, where the movement gains a foothold amid political deadlock;
3) Acquisition of power, where conservatives invite fascists to share power;
4) Exercise of power, where the fascist movement controls the state; and
5) Radicalization or entropy, where the regime either intensifies its actions or settles into routine authoritarianism.
So, where are we in these stages?

This should be good.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
3458 posts
Posted on 1/16/26 at 12:56 pm to
Friggin fascist
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
116898 posts
Posted on 1/16/26 at 12:59 pm to
quote:

Gonna need to lose some we9ght to fit into my Nazi Uniform

I just want one of those helmets.
Posted by Bigdawgb
Member since Oct 2023
3686 posts
Posted on 1/16/26 at 1:06 pm to
Excellent post

Ironically, you'd think the Dems would love Hitler considering he led to the deaths of millions of white, Christian men
Posted by mwrawls
Member since May 2022
127 posts
Posted on 1/16/26 at 2:15 pm to
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Ironically, you'd think the Dems would love Hitler considering he led to the deaths of millions of white, Christian men
And lots and lots of Jews.

Excellent post OP! That is 100% exactly my position as well.
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
14608 posts
Posted on 1/16/26 at 2:19 pm to
Going to be honest with you…if I had a choice between either socialism/communism or fascism I’m taking fascism every single time.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
86463 posts
Posted on 1/16/26 at 2:19 pm to
IDGAF anymore

Like racism screeching.

It's diluted to the point it's meaningless.
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
14608 posts
Posted on 1/16/26 at 2:21 pm to
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where conservatives invite fascists to share power


What was so conservative about Nazis?
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
23354 posts
Posted on 1/16/26 at 2:23 pm to
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3) Acquisition of power, where conservatives invite fascists to share power;

The only way this makes sense in the US currently is if “conservatives” are RINOs who are collaborating with the left.

Modern fascist states have arisen from the left, not the right.
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3853 posts
Posted on 1/16/26 at 2:35 pm to
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What was so conservative about Nazis?

You're missing the point entirely, fascists aren't conservatives - Bismark was a conservative, he wasn't a Nazi. But he shared power with the Nazi's to keep power away from the Communists who were growing in popularity.

Fascism, according to Paxton, isn't a political ideology per se, it's more of a grass roots populist movement of people who have become dissatisfied with their representative government.

Similarly, MAGA isn't conservative. It's a populist movement.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
86463 posts
Posted on 1/16/26 at 3:06 pm to
So you and the rest of the proggies are the communists? Interesting.
Posted by GarmischTiger
Humboldt County
Member since Mar 2007
6872 posts
Posted on 1/16/26 at 3:19 pm to
That is extremely well written.
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