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“We’re right back where we started” - re: Iran

Posted on 4/17/26 at 10:42 am
Posted by Yaboylsu63
Member since Mar 2014
3369 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 10:42 am
I’m seeing this line so much on here.

But this is just not true.
Yeah in terms of oil prices and eventually gasoline prices we will be back to where we were.

But we also just went into the ME and completely humiliated and destroyed the biggest baddest actor over there.

If you think this won’t pay dividends with China, Russia, and India you are being naive and mistaken. We now have so much more leverage with our biggest enemies by taking out their a-hole enforcer.

Not to mention if Iran hands over their uranium, we will have take a group of insane people’s biggest weapon away and made the world safer.

It’s 100% okay to criticize any actions of war, but you have to also acknowledge the outcome honestly. And the outcome was we kicked their dick in and it will benefit us for a decade or more.
Posted by cajuntiger1010
Member since Jan 2015
14362 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 10:45 am to
It also exposed 25% of the right and all of the Left as Iranian Chicom simps
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
84425 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 10:45 am to
I think China comes off looking like a weak ally. Iran and Venezuela were allied with China and provided oil to China. We humiliated Venezuela and bludgeoned Iran, and China did nothing in either case. Will other nations reconsider before throwing in their lot with China?
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
1869 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 10:50 am to
quote:

I’m seeing this line so much on here


It's just the next round of talking point/loser talk the losers have been handed and are parroting.

This operation is has and been going amazingly well.

they can't allow that to be the case. So it goes from:
1) endless quagmire to
2) regime change is the only win
3) the straight is closed
4) we're right back to where we started.

with multiple loser positions in between

there's nothing new under the sun here.
Posted by Laugh More
Member since Jan 2022
3872 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 10:54 am to
Its just more short term thinking. Unfortunately we as a society have goldfish like attention spans.

Its why a lot of people can't see further than this week and why we continue to elect these politicians that are just the worst people and don't care at all for the American People.
Posted by LARancher1991
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2015
2222 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 10:56 am to
quote:

Not to mention if Iran hands over their uranium


There should be no if about this as it's the reason we started this whole thing to begin with. If they don't hand it over and we do nothing then this whole thing was meaningless.
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
18883 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 11:07 am to
Iran has threatened, behind terrorist murdered the world and America for 47 years. #47 DJT says FTS and exposes Iran as but shell of a powerhouse, all hat no cattle, and the left has thrown around how long we have been there, America is losing and groceries are too high. Now I can agree that groceries are high but that from democrats, and some “republicrats” policies. If OMB pulls this off than democrats will still bitch that he should have done it 9 years ago
Posted by rwestmore7
Member since Nov 2007
949 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 11:09 am to
Maybe China is working on actually building their country up instead of worry about what everyone else around the world is doing? I wish we had all of the money spent on this useless war to go towards infrastructure projects that benefit Americans... Guess it's now a negative to be America First.
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
32807 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 11:15 am to
I think I always expected a good outcome of some kind, but it’s not crazy to be a little shocked at how unilateral (bilateral) this was.

But I don’t know how many other countries have quietly supported us.

I really don’t like the idea of replacing a bunch of goodwill we have other other nations with fear.
Posted by Matt225
St. George
Member since Dec 2019
1229 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 11:25 am to
Also completely exposed the worthlessness of NATO and why should greatly diminish USA involvement in NATO moving forward.
Posted by jbdawgs03
Athens
Member since Oct 2017
13712 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 11:28 am to
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Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
24196 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 11:29 am to
quote:

Maybe China is working on actually building their country up instead of worry about what everyone else around the world is doing?


Sure they are.
Posted by pochejp
Gonzales, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2007
8095 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 11:33 am to
Hopefully in this deal Iran will allow all leftard’s from the US to move there and become citizens of their fine country. They have been pulling for Iran the last two months and claimed they won the war. They get to enjoy their spoils of war with the Iranian. Safe travels!
Posted by captainFid
Never apologize to barbarism
Member since Dec 2014
10218 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 11:36 am to
quote:

“We’re right back where we started”


I assure you, EVERYONE in the IRGC would love those 'rose colored glasses'.

That they have nothing to effectively stop shipping transit (other than spit, and a few drones), showing their bluff has been called.

No aircraft
No tanks
No ships
No manufacturing facilities
No nukes
No Tier-1 leadership
No Tier-2 leadership
No Tier-3 leadership

and it they don't act right...
No air-conditioning or night lights to read the Koran.
Posted by riverdiver
Summerville SC
Member since May 2022
2883 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 11:37 am to
quote:

We humiliated Venezuela and bludgeoned Iran, and China did nothing in either case.


Don’t underestimate China.

When Trump had them agree to that economic deal that was actually bad for them they had a standard “out” in the deal that cancelled it in case of pandemic. They released Covid, deal was cancelled, they made trillions of $$
Posted by ScottFowler
NE Ohio
Member since Sep 2012
4678 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 11:42 am to
BRICS is done...

Time to form up ARC.
Screw the EU.
Posted by crazyLSUstudent
391 miles away from Tiger Stadium
Member since Mar 2012
6116 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 11:47 am to
quote:

But we also just went into the ME and completely humiliated and destroyed the biggest baddest actor over there.


IRGC still in control and seems to have strengthened their resolve and hold on the country. Additionally proved they could close the strait at will, and that they have the ability to strike key ME partners who then pressured us to come to terms. What exactly did we accomplish besides killing their top leadership and Iranian citizens?
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
23318 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 11:50 am to
quote:

“We’re right back where we started” - re: Iran



Its a standard idiot Marxist Dem argument. Present false statements and then defend them as truth. It's ridiculous and ashame that more folks don't see thru their lunacy.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
23318 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 11:55 am to
quote:


IRGC still in control and seems to have strengthened their resolve and hold on the country. Additionally proved they could close the strait at will, and that they have the ability to strike key ME partners who then pressured us to come to terms. What exactly did we accomplish besides killing their top leadership and Iranian citizens?



Everything you stated is an exaggeration or totally presumptive. Of course, it's impossible to eliminate every single missle launcher.
As far as closing the Strait, it's fricking open! And will remain open. Until the time Iran is capable of closing it, stfu!

Again, all the ME countries are 100% supporting the US and Israeli military actions. Until this changes. Stfu!

Your an idioit that attempts to base an argument on suppositions. Lol
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13024 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 11:56 am to
quote:


I’m seeing this line so much on here.

But this is just not true.
Yeah in terms of oil prices and eventually gasoline prices we will be back to where we were.

But we also just went into the ME and completely humiliated and destroyed the biggest baddest actor over there.

If you think this won’t pay dividends with China, Russia, and India you are being naive and mistaken. We now have so much more leverage with our biggest enemies by taking out their a-hole enforcer.

Not to mention if Iran hands over their uranium, we will have take a group of insane people’s biggest weapon away and made the world safer.

It’s 100% okay to criticize any actions of war, but you have to also acknowledge the outcome honestly. And the outcome was we kicked their dick in and it will benefit us for a decade or more.


This is the correct answer.
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