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Richard Sherman given a little too much credit?

Posted on 5/15/14 at 3:35 am
Posted by tigerinthawoods
Phoenix, AZ
Member since Jul 2011
229 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 3:35 am
I know it's a cardinals board, but they make an extremely good analysis and argument, for the most part unbiased. Read the last 2-3 pages of this thread

Does Earl Thomas make the Seattle corners out to be more than what they really are? Is it really him and Chancellor that allow the aggressive/risky style of play on the ball that turns their corners into stars?



I mean, 6th rounder Byron Maxwell was starting to look like an all pro last year.

Some of the posters on that cardinals board actually believe that both him and Sherman are just system players that are thriving off the success of Earl Thomas and Chancellor, perhaps that any decent corner can be plugged in to their system and quickly dominate. Interesting to say the least, and I recommend to read the last 2 pages above in the link.
This post was edited on 5/15/14 at 8:23 am
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
87056 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 6:26 am to
LINK

LINK
This post was edited on 5/15/14 at 6:27 am
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
49871 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 6:33 am to
There is no doubt that the Seattle front 7 are the reason their DBs are so good
Posted by HollierThanThou
Member since Jan 2012
6270 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 7:53 am to
Someone also posted a stat showing how often the top corners covered the opposing teams best receiver. Sherman was at like 27% while PP7 was 55% and Haden 60%.

It's easier to shine when your competition isn't as good.
Posted by polizei11
Houston
Member since May 2009
1138 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 8:14 am to
Sherman lines up on the left side of the field 98% of the time. He doesn't guard the best receiver pretty much all of the time. Teams put their best receiver on the opposite side of the field as Sherman.
Posted by Pel Demps
Metairie, LA
Member since May 2014
51 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 8:24 am to
quote:

Teams put their best receiver on the opposite side of the field as Sherman.


How'd that work out for them?
Posted by TDawg1313
WA
Member since Jul 2009
12461 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 8:25 am to
quote:

Some of the posters on that cardinals board actually believe that both him and Sherman are just system players that are thriving off the success of Earl Thomas and Chancellor, perhaps that any decent corner can be plugged in to their system and quickly dominate.

I tend to think that the Seattle coaching staff and front office knows if this is true better than anybody. If that were the case, there is no way they give a guy $40 million guaranteed that they could easily replace.
Posted by Dr. Shultz
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Jun 2013
6391 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 8:29 am to
Sherman is a beast no doubt.

He is slightly overrated though. He doesn't have his own island.
Posted by TDawg1313
WA
Member since Jul 2009
12461 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 8:32 am to
quote:

There is no doubt that the Seattle front 7 are the reason their DBs are so good



The front 7 was not that good 2 years ago (and neither was Kam Chancellor since he was playing injured) and Richard Sherman and Earl Thomas were still 1st team all pro. People are just making stuff up now
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
33782 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 8:33 am to
I'd take Joe Haden over Sherman
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 8:46 am to
quote:

I'd take Joe Haden over Sherman


All day

Posted by LooseCannon22282
South Alabama Fan
Member since May 2008
35614 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 8:58 am to
quote:

Earl Thomas makes up more ground, quicker, than any other Free Safety in the NFL (and probably than any in the history of football.)


had to quote this. Thomas is good but ehhh...
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 8:59 am to
quote:

I'd take Joe Haden over Sherman

Posted by Bigpoppat
Drinking a Manhattan
Member since Oct 2008
9273 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 9:18 am to
I don't think that statement is very laughable. Haden is a beast
This post was edited on 5/15/14 at 9:19 am
Posted by SpartyGator
Detroit Lions fan
Member since Oct 2011
82587 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 9:21 am to
What's so funny about that?
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
162383 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 9:33 am to
I have no idea how that is a funny statement, if you think sherman is that much better and there's no argument to be made for haden I think you're the one who likely needs to be laughed at
This post was edited on 5/15/14 at 9:34 am
Posted by BayouBandit24
Member since Aug 2010
17102 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 9:37 am to
That's not laughable at all. It's probably how most NFL GMs feel too.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
45000 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 9:43 am to
No doubt. I can probably guard a WR for one-Mississippi.
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 10:02 am to
This board can't seem to make up it's mind. Yesterday, Peterson was supposedly better than Sherman. Now it's Haden.


Different flavor of the day.
Posted by SpartyGator
Detroit Lions fan
Member since Oct 2011
82587 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 10:04 am to
quote:

if you think sherman is that much better and there's no argument to be made for haden I think you're the one who likely needs to be laughed at


The Gator homer in me prefers Haden (on a side, it was cool seeing those %ages on another thread about where they line up was neat too), but I have no issue with someone saying Sherman is a better CB. Both are really, really great players (which is awesome considering they haven't played the position that long, RS was WR for a while at Stanford, and Haden was a QB turned CB before Florida).
This post was edited on 5/15/14 at 10:05 am
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