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Pretty Good Read on this WW Debacle

Posted on 3/11/19 at 5:05 pm
Posted by SwampBandit
Livonia, La
Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 5:05 pm
LINK

Sorry if it has already been posted
Posted by Philippines4LSU
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 5:07 pm to
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First, Wade isn’t under investigation by the FBI. There are people saying things to that effect, and that’s sloppy verbiage which is substantially wrong. What Wade is being dragged into is a federal case brought by the US Attorney’s office for the Southern District of New York against three men who work for Adidas, alleging that they’ve essentially been scamming universities and bribing college basketball coaches to steer players into shoe deals and to sign with sports agents. Where Wade has been dragged into the case is that he had a number of phone conversations with one of the men, Christian Dawkins – a middleman serving as a consultant for Adidas, who was in a position to broker recruits to coaches but apparently never actually brokered one to Wade. 
Posted by DustyDinkleman
Here
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 5:08 pm to
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Dawkins’ attorney, a man named Steve Haney, has said that if the US Attorney in New York continues to press his case against Dawkins Haney will essentially burn all of college basketball down.



While Wade may be affected by it, I hope to hell this happens.
Posted by SwampBandit
Livonia, La
Member since Jun 2016
3733 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 5:10 pm to
Thats what i say, If something happens lets drag all of damn college basketball down, The NCAA would lose so much money it wouldnt even be funny
Posted by TheCaterpillar
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 5:10 pm to
The author of that article reads tiger droppings thoroughly
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
27632 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 5:15 pm to
Good article.

It laid out some BS about the roles JBE and Williams play in this mess.

My favorite part? Linking the fates of Wade and Alleva at LSU. He has a point: there is no way Wade gets fired and Alleva stays on board. It just won't happen.
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
8838 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 5:17 pm to
Basically sums up the best pro LSU and pro Will Wade arguments made on here since Thursday
This post was edited on 3/11/19 at 5:18 pm
Posted by wildcat81tiger86
Member since Feb 2014
1002 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 5:18 pm to
Excellent all around article.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 5:19 pm to
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While Wade may be affected by it, I hope to hell this happens.


If Wade goes down for this, I hope he brings the whole fricking bullshite system with him. Let it burn
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
27632 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 5:20 pm to
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If Wade goes down for this, I hope he brings the whole fricking bullshite system with him. Let it burn



Haney has already said that's his end game. Wade is only one piece of that puzzle.
Posted by ellessuuuu
Member since Sep 2004
9200 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 5:27 pm to
Scott does a good job of clearing up a lot of the issues. In particular, Wade is not under investigation by the FBI.

For some reason, people cannot wrap their mind around this.
Posted by cooneydf
central la
Member since Nov 2007
63 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 5:34 pm to
Whoever is paying college players let the chips fall. It is not alright to cheat just because everybody else does it. I'm fed up with this new generation that says it's ok to cheat. When your boss calls you in and you don't report to speak to them look for another job because you have something to hide. This is sad when people consider cheating as part of our society. We are a sad country when cheating is accepted.
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
Member since Jan 2018
12664 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 5:45 pm to
I’m sure wade was a small piece of this puzzle. Same as tcu and creighton and Gottfried for that matter. The big fish are coming the question is will the media jump like they have on LSU.
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 5:46 pm to
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My favorite part? Linking the fates of Wade and Alleva at LSU. He has a point: there is no way Wade gets fired and Alleva stays on board. It just won't happen.

So you're saying this is the second stop Alleva has set the place on fire and then hit the road?
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
27632 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 5:55 pm to
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Whoever is paying college players let the chips fall. It is not alright to cheat just because everybody else does it. I'm fed up with this new generation that says it's ok to cheat. When your boss calls you in and you don't report to speak to them look for another job because you have something to hide. This is sad when people consider cheating as part of our society. We are a sad country when cheating is accepted.



How self righteous of you. And to your point of this "new generation" doing it, Charles Barkley said when he was at AU in the early 80s he received improper benefits, so this is hardly something new. It's a systemic and well established protocol. Wade just happened to open his mouth on the wrong two phone calls.
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
27632 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 5:57 pm to
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So you're saying this is the second stop Alleva has set the place on fire and then hit the road?


That does appear to be his MO if we're being honest with ourselves.

He didn't have Duke's best interests at heart in the 2000s and he doesn't have LSU's at heart right now. He's a snake whose priority, above all else, is self preservation.
Posted by Tammany Tom
Mandeville
Member since Jun 2004
5377 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 6:05 pm to
It really isn’t cheating. It’s just how things work in all walks of life in business, sports, and politics.

This has been going on since the 60’s & 70’s. Lol. How do you think Rupp, Wooden, and Bear Bryant built dynasties.

Go look into John Wooden at UCLA. He was a mediocre coach his first 15 years at UCLA. He didn’t become a Legend until Papa Sam showed up and started bringing elite players to Westwood.
Posted by lsualum01
Member since Sep 2008
1788 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 6:07 pm to
You should give up college athletics and probably all sports that generate any sort of revenue because it is rampant. Like to the point that if you dont cheat you dont stand a chance. You may claim this to be a "generational" issue but it is not. This has been going on for a long time and you have been supporting it if you watched or attended a game. If you want to ignore the obvious and stick your head in the sand, go ahead. But don't say this generation made cheating common or acceptable.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 6:22 pm to
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It really isn’t cheating. It’s just how things work in all walks of life in business, sports, and politics. This has been going on since the 60’s & 70’s. Lol. How do you think Rupp, Wooden, and Bear Bryant built dynasties. Go look into John Wooden at UCLA. He was a mediocre coach his first 15 years at UCLA. He didn’t become a Legend until Papa Sam showed up and started bringing elite players to Westwood.


Then maybe it is time to end the fairytale, and call this what it is, a professional sports organization operating under the name of a college serving as a NBA farm league. I don't understand why so many people want to pretend that this is somehow amateur college athletics.
Posted by Britgirl
Ascension
Member since Jan 2013
1179 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 6:30 pm to
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Whoever is paying college players let the chips fall. It is not alright to cheat just because everybody else does it. I'm fed up with this new generation that says it's ok to cheat. When your boss calls you in and you don't report to speak to them look for another job because you have something to hide. This is sad when people consider cheating as part of our society. We are a sad country when cheating is accepted.


Unfortunately, it’s part of any sport where money can be made and a sports legacy created,and has been for a long time. It’s not just the “new” generation, whatever that means.

You’ can go back to the 70’s and 80’s when Russia and East Germany were winning all track and strength events at the Olympics and it was discovered to be due to steroid use, and male hormone use in women’s events.

Then in the 90’s and 2000’s steroid use started to infiltrate MLB and North American Track and Field (actually worldwide eventually)

Users started beating everybody, huge batting numbers, record breaking speeds.
Other athletes started to do steroids because they could not compete with the cheaters, even though they trained just as hard. It was not a level playing field.

Then of course it was blood doping in cycling, throughout the 2000’s.

I don’t like cheating on moral grounds either, but I have enjoyed the turn around this basketball program has made.
I enjoyed watching batters crank out home runs.
I enjoyed watching 100 meter sprints time records be broken, the immense speed was amazing.

So I realize I’m somewhat of a hypocrite.
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