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re: Help me understand the complication with Berry and Lacy.
Posted on 12/23/25 at 10:36 am to Hahnville07
Posted on 12/23/25 at 10:36 am to Hahnville07
quote:Has Berry accomplished anything close to what Lacy has? It's not about NIL, guy, it's just common sense.
Why would berry asking price be different? Forgive me I not to good with this nil stuff.
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Posted on 12/23/25 at 10:36 am to KingofthePoint
quote:
Some do, some don’t
The last one who didn’t fall off after gaining weight after their TF season was guice a decade ago.
Emery
Jackson
Durham
All had issues after gaining weight.
TDP and CEH did minimal their freshman seasons and developed over time.
Posted on 12/23/25 at 10:39 am to GeauxLSU4
quote:Exactly.
According to whom? Lester Earl? Berry had limited touches and ran behind a shitty OL all season. He showed glimpses of how electric he can be with the ball in his hands and we never utilized his elite pass catching ability. If he gains about 10 lbs to handle the work load, I don't see why he can't be an every down back.
Posted on 12/23/25 at 10:50 am to Hahnville07
quote:The only time you will ever see a team run a RB 30 times is if they don't have another RB worth a flip. Look at Ole Miss for example. You would think Logan Diggs is worth giving a few carries a game right? Nope. All they are doing is running the hell out of Lacy. It's Lacy and Chambliss. And I keep telling people, Lacy is not special. He's a power back that's getting the ball a ton at the goal line. Caden Durham had more 40+ yard plays and 50+ yard plays in 168 plays as a true freshman, as Lacy had in 299 plays this year. Durham also had only one less 30+ yard play in 130 less plays.
I don’t think he is. I can’t see him carrying it 30 times against Bama
Which is why I reiterate, we don't need Lacy. We need a power back for goal line and depth and to run out the clock late in the game. Get a 230-240lb RB from somewhere who moves pilez, and pay him 300k or less to come here.
Posted on 12/23/25 at 10:53 am to Adam Banks
I meant more generally speaking, not specifically LSU. With a new strength and conditioning coach, maybe it won’t be an issue.
Posted on 12/23/25 at 10:53 am to Adam Banks
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TDP and CEH did minimal their freshman seasons and developed over time.
These two were already thick enough to shoulder a bigger load. Berry at 185 lbs is not. Because he's not very tall, 190-195 should be his goal. Same weight as Devon Achane.
Posted on 12/23/25 at 11:54 am to Hahnville07
He has probably been told by outsiders and maybe Frank that he should leave if Lacy comes here. He is being lobbied by outsiders, the question is does he buy into it or does he appreciate that he should be in a offense that highlights his abilities but at the same time not playing him every down so it reduces the wear and tear on his body.
Posted on 12/23/25 at 12:18 pm to Datbayoubengal
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Lacy is not special.
C’mon bro what are we doing here
National Ranks
Missed tackles forced: 2nd (84)
10 yard runs: t6th (35)
15+ yd runs: 4th (21)
1st downs: 2nd (87)
Yards After Contact: 3rd (927)
Posted on 12/23/25 at 12:30 pm to GeauxLSU4
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Berry had limited touches
He had 5 fewer carries than Durham, who had the most on the team.
RB rushing stats:
Caden Durham - 11 games, 106 carries, 505 yards (4.8 YPC), 45.9 YPG, 3 TDs
Harlem Berry - 12 games, 101 carries, 446 yards (4.4 YPC), 37.2 YPG, 2 TDs
Ju'Juan Johnson - 12 games, 38 carries, 151 yards (4 YPC), 12.6 YPG, 2 TDs
Posted on 12/23/25 at 1:05 pm to mdomingue
Right, and they never threw him the ball which might be his best attribute outside of his speed. The offense had no identity this year and Berry was one of the casualties. Without looking, I would guess 75% of his touches came during the last 6 games.
Posted on 12/23/25 at 1:34 pm to GeauxLSU4
quote:
they never threw him the ball
Not many RB throws it seems, Ju'Juan got the most.
Caden Durham - 11 games, 16 catches, 91 yards (5.7 YPC), 8.3 YPG, 0 TDs
Harlem Berry - 12 games, 8 catches, 32 yards (4 YPC), 2.7 YPG, 0 TDs
Ju'Juan Johnson - 12 games, 17 catches, 72 yards (4.2 YPC), 6 YPG, 0 TDs
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Without looking, I would guess 75% of his touches came during the last 6 games.
75 of his 101 carries were in the last 6 games
That is a pretty darn good guess
Posted on 12/23/25 at 1:39 pm to Hahnville07
Buck fama
Posted on 12/23/25 at 4:14 pm to Hahnville07
He is an every down back in my offense
Posted on 12/23/25 at 4:58 pm to Hahnville07
Spoiled. Doesn’t want to work hard to be top dog!
Posted on 12/23/25 at 6:37 pm to Datbayoubengal
Agreed
Posted on 12/23/25 at 6:54 pm to Hahnville07
Stopped at the first sentence and downvoted
Posted on 12/24/25 at 6:52 am to Hahnville07
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I can’t see him carrying it 30 times against Bama
the days of any RB carrying the ball 30 times a game is history...
Posted on 12/24/25 at 8:01 am to Lester Earl
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Yap.
Yall act like it’s an insult. He’ll be more productive in a specialized role.
Why? He doesn't appear to be fragile. The back I saw ran tough, hit the hole quickly, and has everything you want in a RB. Your narrative proved to be false.
Any RB is tough to measure with the combination of Oline, play calling, and QB play we had this year. I think Berry will excel next year if we improve on each of those areas.
Posted on 12/24/25 at 9:00 am to GeauxLSU4
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According to whom? Lester Earl? Berry had limited touches and ran behind a shitty OL all season. He showed glimpses of how electric he can be with the ball in his hands and we never utilized his elite pass catching ability. If he gains about 10 lbs to handle the work load, I don't see why he can't be an every down back.
"Not an every down back" sounds like more of a slight than it is. On 3rd and less than a yard Berry is not ideal. That s not understating how effective he can be over the course of a game or a season.
Posted on 12/24/25 at 9:58 am to Hahnville07
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I can’t see him carrying it 30 times against Bama
Its like some of yall dont even watch football.
Ole Miss' whole team barely averaged 40 caries a game. Lacy averaged 20 even with his workload.
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