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Posted on 12/14/25 at 10:17 am to
Posted by Portcityblues
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 12/14/25 at 10:17 am to
I’m sure he probably has a good idea on if his rb from ole Miss will possibly follow him. Not saying he knows for sure but he definitely has a good feeling one way or the other what that kid may do.
Posted by friendlyobservation
Member since Mar 2024
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Posted on 12/14/25 at 10:53 am to
Why do you always spam a thread with like 5 replies in a row? Do you not how to put it all in one post?
Posted by cbree88
South Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 12/14/25 at 12:43 pm to
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Actually your reply sucks and is misleading. My post said "IT TELLS ME KIFFIN IS CONFIDENT" not "KIFFIN SAID HE IS CONFIDENT". The capitalization is so you can grasp it this time.


Are you mentally retarded, dude? Just take your L and move on instead of spamming the thread with a bunch of stupid, nonsensical replies.

I said your thread title doesn’t match up with the content of your post, which is 100% true.

Your goofy reply does not address that deficiency that I pointed out. In other words, your reply was about something irrelevant.
This post was edited on 12/14/25 at 12:47 pm
Posted by GorgeousGeorge
Nola
Member since Jul 2014
2418 posts
Posted on 12/14/25 at 6:15 pm to
I mean if we get Lacy, we have him, Berry, and Durham. I’d be very comfortable going into the season with those 3.
Posted by Wolfcola
Member since Nov 2025
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Posted on 12/14/25 at 6:43 pm to
We are getting Kewan Lacy

It’s the most obvious thing ever
Posted by Kikicaca
1 Mile from the Atchafalaya
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 12/14/25 at 8:27 pm to
Bet ya Kiffin has a surprise or two whether it's Lacy or a couple of unknowns.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
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Posted on 12/14/25 at 9:18 pm to
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I mean if we get Lacy, we have him, Berry, and Durham. I’d be very comfortable going into the season with those 3.


Very comfortable is the understatement of the decade that would be a grand slam
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18909 posts
Posted on 12/14/25 at 9:33 pm to
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Unless Durham has been hurt 2 years in a row, he's the slowest 4.4+ guy I've seen burst wise. I think it's more he just lacks vision than anything else.

Durham is not a between the tackles back. He bounces it outside, and tries to beat guys to the edge. His real problem is being tackled from behind on long runs.
Posted by GorgeousGeorge
Nola
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 12/14/25 at 9:41 pm to
If his main problem is getting tackled on LONG RUNS, I think he’s doing ok.
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Savannah, GA
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 12/15/25 at 12:28 pm to
In LK we trust.
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 12/16/25 at 8:40 am to
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Very comfortable is the understatement of the decade that would be a grand slam


Not quite. It would probably be the best 3 backs in the SEC, if not the country. Be the best 3 backs at LSU at the same time since LF7, Guice, and Williams. But Lane runs the shite out of the ball, and there’s no way we can go into a season with only 3 scholarship RBs. Need at least 4, probably 5.

And—not you—but people are WAY underestimating just how good Caden Durham is. He’s obviously been hurt the past 2 years. He fricked up several toes halfway though his freshman season and wasn’t the same. I don’t know if that injury lingered into this year or it was something(s) else, but I don’t think he was healthy all year.

Still, Durham lead the team in yards with 505 on 106 carries for an average of 4.76 y/a with a long of 51. Berry had 446 on 101 carries for an average of 4.42 and a long of 43. Durham had 16 receptions for 91 yards (5.7 y/r). Berry had 8 for 32 (4.0 y/r). (Berry was way underused in the passing game imo).

Durham
SEC games—63 attempts for 369 yards (5.86)
Non Con—43 attempts for 136 (3.16)

Berry
SEC games—69 attempts for 281 (4.07)
Non Con—32 for 165 (5.16)

Durham had 9 carries of 10+ yards and 6 of 20+. Berry had 10 carries of 10+ yards, and only 3 of 20+. But this stat stood out to me, and why I think they are very complementary backs:

On 1st down:
Durham—3.96 yards/attempt
Berry—4.19 yards/attempt

On 2nd down:
Durham—3.80 yards/attempt
Berry—5.38 yards/attempt

On 3rd down:
Durham—8.45 yards/attempt
Berry—3.31 yards/attempt

3rd down 1-3 yards to go:
Durham—5.67 yards/attempt
Berry—3.10 yards/attemtp

3rd down 4-6 yards to go:
Durham—21.25 yards/attempt (4 carries for 85 yards)
Berry—0 carries

So these guys had pretty similar stats, but Durham had the slightly better season. But the point was not to say that Durham is better or has the higher ceiling, it’s just that he is severely underrated, especially considering he played the whole season hurt and behind that terrible OL.

Berry played behind it too, but his style is to be a little more patient and wait just a split second longer to let the hole (hopefully) open before hitting it, which is why he was slightly more successful on early downs and that skewed our perceptions a bit.

But think about it, if the biggest knock on Durham is that he broke a lot of big runs but was caught from behind before he could score, that’s not really a valid criticism to dismiss him. Again, our perception was skewed because we had maybe the worst offense in the country converting red zone touchdowns, so we knew if he didn’t house those, it was probably gonna cost us 4, if not 7 points. Had we been just average in scoring TDs inside the red zone and we wind up punching those in for touchdowns a couple of plays later, we wouldn’t even remember that he got chased down. Or we would have forgiven it and chalked it up to his injuries taking a bit of his speed away. Which is 100% accurate.

I love both Durham and Berry and think they could be a great duo even without Lacy. But Lacy had over 1,000 yards this year AFTER contact. If you add him to those 2, that’s 3 great RBs with 3 different, but extremely complimentary skill sets. With him as the bell cow and an improved OL, Durham could wind up having a monster year with a couple hundred more yards on similar or even less carries because his body wouldn’t take the absolute beating it did this year. And I think Berry would be used very creatively, especially in the passing game. (Did y’all see him in 7 on 7s? He was an absolute freak show). He could have 500 yards receiving.

Those 3 could easily have 3,000 yards from scrimmage alone if they stay healthy. But there’s the rub. There’s no chance they stay healthy all season if they’re the only 3 scholarship backs. We’ve GOT to add 1 or 2 more. Which may be difficult if you’re asking guys from the portal to come in and be your 4th or 5th string backs. Maybe you get another one besides Lacy who’s better than Durham or Berry and can promise them more carries. But then 1 of them leaves and we’re back to only having 3 or 4 guys again.

I asked this in another thread, but are there any good local high school backs that didn’t sign in the early period? Would be a lot easier to talk them in to coming in as true freshmen and be 4th or 5th on the depth chart while still getting pretty significant carries relative to most guys in that role in other offenses. Lane’s
offense doesn’t work without running the ball a shite ton, and we need a full RB room to do that for an entire season, especially if it’s an elongated one with a playoff run.
Posted by KWL85
Member since Mar 2023
3574 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 9:36 am to
I admit to being slightly surprised by just how good Durham's stats are. I love the kid as a RB and felt injuries slowed him down this year. But those are solid numbers.

It will be interesting to see who the 4th RB would be if we get Lacy. That guy would have to know that he wouldn't get much pt. Most transfers come with expectation to start or at least get a lot of pt.

I hope Johnson stays. He will fill the 4th RB spot nicely.

Another set of impressive RBs was Faulk, Collins, and Mealey.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/16/25 at 10:07 am to
quote:

How was Johnson as surprise? Dude wants to try playing QB, he doesn't want to just be a RB. He might end up realizing it's best, but he definitely wants to try to be a QB.


he actually just wants a plan and path for him and to not be moved all over. But would prefer QB then DB
Posted by Ebridg3
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Sep 2016
3128 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 10:23 am to
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I don't know what the love with Johnson was.


The love was very simple.

Despite LSU consistently FINISHING with NOT Top 5 recruiting classes, the losers on here (including some in the local media) just couldn't stop themselves from propagating narratives that were not supported with evidence to stick their heads in the sand.

Even if you pulled the roster and looked at the overall rankings once the transfer class got factored in, it wasn't anything near the old LSU standard.

It's the same thing every time. People bring up good points, everyone else calls them overly critical, etc. and then we end up in these situations.

Brian Kelly could have brought in half of Woodlawns team and some on here would be clamoring for future titles.
This post was edited on 12/16/25 at 10:25 am
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 12/16/25 at 10:56 am to
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Durham is not a between the tackles back.


Hard to know what kind of back he actually is considering he’s run behind 2 of the worst run blocking OLs we’ve ever had. However, he sure did gain a lot of his yards between the tackles, including on 3rd downs to move the chains.

quote:

He bounces it outside, and tries to beat guys to the edge.


Oh no, a RB takes a handoff with 2 DL letting him 2 yards behind the LOS and he tries to bounce it outside and run away from them. The only RB in history to ever do this.

I do get what you’re saying, though. I think Durham has had a difficult time occasionally not realizing his injuries have caused him to lose a step. He may not even feel it, but that slight drop is getting him run down horizontally for short or zero gains when he was probably taking those 70+ yards to the house in high school.

So that’s your perception of him, when in reality, he does just fine when he just hits the hole full speed and runs between the tackles. He’s got great balance and can break tackles.
That’s why he breaks so many long runs. He’s not running untouched through gigantic holes that WE could get 25 yards on.

Durham can still be effective banged up. He can be effective with a terrible OL. He can be effective with both. But he can’t be great. No RB can. So imagine him healthy AND running behind an OL actually capable of opening holes. That’s why I’d love to see him and Lacy compliment each other. A fully healthy Durham with a decent OL and Lacy punishing defenses all game could have 750 yards on 100 carries.

And I really want to see how Lane would use Berry if he doesn’t have to be RB 1 or 2. He could be used like Alvin Kamara or Clyde where he splits out in the slot and we go 5 wide with an empty backfield, he could line up next to Lacy or Durham in a split backfield, fake a counter to them, then toss Berry a toss sweep outside. Hide him and leak him out of the backfield and dump him a screen. shite, he could just line up in the slot off the bat—he’s got Aaron Anderson like slippery moves in the open field. Not sure he runs routes like him and is as quick and fluid in and out of breaks, but Lane can scheme him in space to where he only has to make 1 guy miss and he’s off to the races.

I’m not saying Berry isn’t good enough to be a really good traditional #2 SEC back. I don’t think he can hold up for a whole season in a Lane offense as a #1, though. Not yet. But even if he could, you’re wasting what makes him special if you don’t use him in non traditional ways. He could have 1,000 yards from scrimmage on 100 touches.
This post was edited on 12/16/25 at 10:58 am
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 12/16/25 at 11:09 am to
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His real problem is being tackled from behind on long runs.


Read this back to yourself again. And again. And again and again until you realize just how stupid it is.

But again, I get it. Our inability to score touchdowns in the red zone fricked our brains up so bad where it’s a “real problem” he breaks so many long runs but doesn’t finish. If you’re breaking so many long runs to where getting caught from behind becomes a trend, I’m pretty sure that’s not a problem at all.

(I do wonder if it was a conditioning thing as much as speed. He looked like he was carrying a few more pounds around his gut this year. But he’s run track in the spring most of his life until last year. That foot/toes injury hurt a lot worse than we thought. Hard to condition if you’re having to stay off your feet for months at a time to heal. Riding a bike is not the same).


I just love the thought of those 3 backs together, because they’re all so different and could compliment each other so well. And have y’all seen our schedule next year? No way we get through that gauntlet without really spreading the wealth amongst 3 RBs in various ways. And we’ll need a 4th or 5th to contribute as well. Maybe that’s how you sell those guys who would historically have never come. We play 9 SEC games, an OOC against Clemson, and we plan on making the playoffs. A 4th string RB is gonna get way more touches next year out of necessity. shite, just tell them in the new SEC, there’s no such thing as “strings” anymore. Not how we’re used to thinking of them.
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 12/16/25 at 11:19 am to
quote:

he actually just wants a plan and path for him and to not be moved all over.


Understandable. We really don’t give him enough credit for the sacrifice he made the past 2 seasons for us to go 8-4 and 7-5.

quote:

But would prefer QB then DB


A tough, but interesting choice. I don’t think he has a professional future at QB. He’s a good enough athlete that he could have at DB, but he forfeited 2 years of development there by being such a team player.

Wherever he goes, whatever he decides, I think redshirting in ‘26 would be ideal. And who knows, he may not have an NFL future at QB, but with 2 years of development in the right system (‘26 redshirting and ‘27 1st year starting as a redshirt Jr.), he may be good enough to command a really nice bag as a 5th year Sr. in ‘28 that could set him up nicely for life after football.

Or maybe I’m underestimating his ceiling as a QB. But I think his more realistic chance at playing in the NFL is at DB.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
76392 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 11:20 am to
Caden Durham would be an all american if every game we played was against South Carolina. He ran like he had something personal against them both years.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
37392 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 11:31 am to
agree with everything you said

he has sacrificed a lot because he loves LSU. whatever he decides, I hope most tiger fans just wish him the best
Posted by r0cky1
Member since Oct 2020
4905 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 12:12 pm to
Johnson was not nearly as good as berry or Durham.

He wants to be a qb anyway. Let him go to ULL and try it out
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