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re: All you that hate NIL, transfers, etc. how do you not see the hypocrisy you're displaying?
Posted on 12/15/21 at 1:51 pm to Curtis Lowe
Posted on 12/15/21 at 1:51 pm to Curtis Lowe
quote:It doesn’t matter what I think. We should do it and let the market speak.
Do you think 80 K+ people would show up for a minor league football team's game in Baton Rouge or Shreveport or Birmingham?
30 K attendees? 40 K? 50 K?
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Posted on 12/15/21 at 1:54 pm to barry
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It was ruined when they started paying coaches more in college than the NFL and having 9 figure TV contracts. You can't get to that sort of money and not let the players partake. NIL didn't ruin college sports its just a symptom of the mega cash grab that it has become.
This
College football is the victim of its own success.
Posted on 12/15/21 at 2:00 pm to Burt Reynolds
quote:Biggest fricking idiot on this board.
Burt Reynolds
quote:Not knowing the difference between an organization and a nation is basic stuff. If you had a job, you would know that organizations and leagues have rules and regulations required for membership or association.
Setting an artificial wage ceiling is a marxist concept.
And the idea that the NFL imposing a salary caps for league play is somehow Marxist is beyond dumb. Most pro athletes earn millions more in other deals outside their league. That is the FREE MARKET.
Posted on 12/15/21 at 2:04 pm to LSUTiger2000
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It's the new reality - quit with the "Get off my lawn, it'll ruin football takes"
It already has
Posted on 12/15/21 at 2:17 pm to LSUTiger2000
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Glad that you make the decisions on what’s an upgrade for an individual.
That's my opinion & you can make you own too.
I'm not sure what the rest of your post is about.
Posted on 12/15/21 at 2:25 pm to MOT
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It doesn’t matter what I think. We should do it and let the market speak.
I'm just trying to understand how this would work.
Who would be the source of the money to fund minor league football?
The NFL? Remember NFL Europe, that was pouring money down the drain.
TV contracts? Who is going to watch a lesser version of the XFL? Who the heck even watched the XFL? Not enough to make it a viable league.
Fans in the seats? I could just imagine fans lining up in the 10s of hundreds to see unknown, 18-24 athletes play minor league football.
It costs LSU over $45 million a year to field a football team.
So, I ask again - who is funding this league?
It's not a viable option or it would be in place today.
Posted on 12/15/21 at 2:28 pm to lsufb1912
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That's my opinion & you can make you own too.
Max is going to go play for a coach who has produced a number of first round QB draft picks. How you can't even see how someone wouldn't think it's an upgrade is just unreasonable. I think you don't think it's an upgrade and why you think Tari Eason is upgrading coming here is because you have purple and gold glasses, sleep with a stuffed Mike the Tiger, and think LSU is the greatest place in the world.
That's fine, just acknowledge that you're mad when things hurt LSU.
Posted on 12/15/21 at 2:33 pm to RRBengal
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This
College football is the victim of its own success.
And the only people not getting a piece of the pie were the players.
It’s just so cringe seeing boomers mad about NIL when they’re paying for a website in 247 that makes money off subscriptions to look at high school kids. The entire NCAA is monetized and yet the sole reason for the entertainment is being paid and it’s “ruining the sport”
ITS BEEN RUINED
Posted on 12/15/21 at 2:44 pm to XbengalTiger
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Not knowing the difference between an organization and a nation is basic stuff. If you had a job, you would know that organizations and leagues have rules and regulations required for membership or association.
And the idea that the NFL imposing a salary caps for league play is somehow Marxist is beyond dumb. Most pro athletes earn millions more in other deals outside their league. That is the FREE MARKET.
You're both right and also, both missing the boat. Setting an artificial salary limit IS anti-free market (and I guess you can call it Marxist to some degree)
But it is not that the NFL just has arbitrary rules and regulations imposed by the league for membership. The salary cap is the result of collective bargaining between the players (union) and the league (32 individual teams associated under the league umbrella). Thus, BOTH the players and the league have agreed to the salary cap. It is not something that has been unilaterally imposed by the league as a condition of membership.
So while the salary cap, at its core, is anti-free market. It is a restriction agreed upon by both the employers and employees
Posted on 12/15/21 at 2:46 pm to LSUTiger2000
Ah, didn't realize I was dealing with an aggie. It all makes sense now. 
Who said Max is gonna play? I just heard an interview with Jimbo drooling about how he thinks Weigman is the best QB in the country.
Max going to A&M will be the biggest mistake of his career. He's gonna have to sit out a yr whenever he transfers out ...For the record, I'm not even mad about Max leaving LSU. I just think he is a quitter.
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Max is going to go play for a coach who has produced a number of first round QB draft picks.
Who said Max is gonna play? I just heard an interview with Jimbo drooling about how he thinks Weigman is the best QB in the country.
Max going to A&M will be the biggest mistake of his career. He's gonna have to sit out a yr whenever he transfers out ...For the record, I'm not even mad about Max leaving LSU. I just think he is a quitter.
This post was edited on 12/15/21 at 2:49 pm
Posted on 12/15/21 at 2:50 pm to Alt26
quote:What a strange concept. I wonder if NCAA athletes knew they weren’t going to be paid when they decided to play collegiate athletics or if it was a decision made after the fact without their knowledge.
It is a restriction agreed upon by both the employers and employees
Posted on 12/15/21 at 3:03 pm to Burt Reynolds
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So you don’t support a private organization’s right to make the decision? Sounds very anti-capitalist.
Of course I do. But the NCAA was forced by the government. They did not want NIL.
Posted on 12/15/21 at 3:11 pm to LSUTiger2000
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butthurtedness
Did you just create a new word.
Posted on 12/15/21 at 3:28 pm to LSUTiger2000
Do you like college football or did you just start watching in 2019?
Posted on 12/15/21 at 3:29 pm to Alt26
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hat is fine...but don't complain when LSU v. Alabama looks like this because all of the best talent is playing minor league ball
im prepared
Army and Navy about to be powerhouses again.
Posted on 12/15/21 at 3:35 pm to Alt26
Except scholarships are all one year deals, Why should I stay If the school has a chance to pull the scholarship for some bullshite reason? Why is it a one way street?
Posted on 12/15/21 at 3:54 pm to Alt26
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In the NFL the players reap financial benefit drawn from the revenue generated by demand to watch their skill/labor. In college, they don't.
This is the part of your argument where you are completely incorrect. They do reap the financial benefits though scholarships, coaching, facilities, housing, food, etc... They just don't value the benefits that they receive and have become greedy.
Posted on 12/15/21 at 4:02 pm to Burt Reynolds
quote:I'm as "free market" as anyone can be, but it's different with sports.
People who don’t support NIL, the transfer portal, etc. are not real capitalists. They think every team should get equal amounts of talent regardless of how much money they have. Sounds a whole lot like marxism to me!!
A huge consideration in any sports league is competition. When the scales are too tilted, it destroys the competitive environment, and you have a few good teams that dominate. That's not good for the league's overall health.
It's the reason that pro teams have salary caps, and why there's an 85 scholarship limit in college. To "spread the wealth," which is utterly catastrophic in a normal economy, but necessary in a sports league where competitive games on the field are necessary for the league to survive with the fans.
So parity is a good thing in sports and rules should be in place for that, but it's horrific outside of sports.
Posted on 12/15/21 at 4:23 pm to sardog12
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This is the part of your argument where you are completely incorrect. They do reap the financial benefits though scholarships, coaching, facilities, housing, food, etc... They just don't value the benefits that they receive and have become greedy.
Exactly. the trade off for playing college sports is a free education. if thats not enough or players arent interested in that, then they should go do something else. (minor league football would be a good option)
Posted on 12/15/21 at 4:55 pm to EvrybodysAllAmerican
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Exactly. the trade off for playing college sports is a free education. if thats not enough or players arent interested in that, then they should go do something else. (minor league football would be a good option)
So all of us should just accept what our current employer pays us and never look for more right? Why do you get to limit someone's earning potential? I'm sure you're find with whatever raise you get and never think I'm not greedy, and shouldn't get more. Do you call Brian Kelly greedy for not being satisfied with $7M and accepting $10M from LSU? Are these the capitalists of the rant still talking? The jealousy of an athlete that can capitalize on a demand for his services. Sorry guys, things change (and this is a good change for the players) - either adapt to the change or get left behind. The toothpaste is out of the tube.
Keep with the "they are ruining college football" takes...it makes you look like an old stick in the mud who starts sentences with "back in my day."
All I can do is laugh at you crybabies that want to limit earning potential for someone else because you liked the way things were. Yes, the world should cater to what you like.
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