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re: Matt McMahon is not gonna make it
Posted on 1/5/26 at 9:18 am to In The Know
Posted on 1/5/26 at 9:18 am to In The Know
They have to run the table at home aside from Alabama and Arkansas and beat USC on the road.
Those are 8 wins and may get you in the tournament at 20-11
Those are 8 wins and may get you in the tournament at 20-11
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Posted on 1/5/26 at 9:25 am to WaydownSouth
I hate to call any game a must win this early on, but after losing to A&M and Thomas looking like he might be out through even next week when we play @ Vandy and Kentucky ; this South Carolina game feels like a must win honestly.
If Thomas is out through Kentucky and we cant get it done vs. a bad South Carolina team tomorrow an 0-4 start looks all but guaranteed (Again assuming Thomas is out through Kentucky game).
If we start 0-4 Dedan Thomas it's going to be exceedingly difficult to go 8-6 on our remaining schedule to be in the tournament talk. We might even have to go 9-5.
If Thomas is out through Kentucky and we cant get it done vs. a bad South Carolina team tomorrow an 0-4 start looks all but guaranteed (Again assuming Thomas is out through Kentucky game).
If we start 0-4 Dedan Thomas it's going to be exceedingly difficult to go 8-6 on our remaining schedule to be in the tournament talk. We might even have to go 9-5.
This post was edited on 1/5/26 at 9:26 am
Posted on 1/5/26 at 9:26 am to Juan Betanzos
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Will Wade didn’t sniff a Final Four at LSU and will not at NC ST.
So, in your opinion, Final Four is the Bench Mark for LSU Basketball Coaches?
How about making the Tourney?
How many times has a Wade team made the tourney, in all the years he has been coaching? How many times while at LSU, McNeese?
Posted on 1/5/26 at 9:29 am to Alt26
The difference is all those schools take basketball seriously. Lsu hasn't in 20 years. Nice try
Posted on 1/5/26 at 9:52 am to ChestRockwell
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The difference is all those schools take basketball seriously. Lsu hasn't in 20 years. Nice try
And this conclusion is based upon what, exactly? That LSU has lost a lot during that time? Perhaps the losing is a product of poor coaching...not a lack of commitment. Did Alabama "not take basketball seriously" for 20 years and ONLY decided to do so before hiring Oats? Or is Oats a good coach and that's why Alabama is winning? Did Iowa St. all of a sudden really start caring about basketball the moment they hired Otzelberger? Or is it that Otzelberger is a damn good coach and the success followed it? Texas Tech was literally seconds away from winning a national championship. Did they just completely "stop taking basketball seriously" immediately after that? Or did they make a poor hire when Beard left...only to then "start caring again" once McCasland, from North Texas was hired? Did Florida suddenly "stop taking basketball seriously" the moment Donovan left only to then start taking it seriously again the moment they hired a coach from San Francisco?
History has shown over, and over, and over again that if you get the right coach winning follows. LSU could "take basketball seriously" all they want. Johnson, Jones and McMahon were/are NEVER going to be premiere coaches.
The right guy is out there, just like Oats, or McCasland, or Golden, Otzelberger, etc. LSU's admin just has to identify and hire him. If./when that happens you will see the winning and interest take off just like you've seen in Women's basketball. Just like you saw (briefly) when Wade was at LSU.
LSU fans aren't any different than any other fans. If a coach at LSU starts having the same type of success Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Tennessee, have had in recent years the support will follow.
Posted on 1/5/26 at 10:04 am to Alt26
All of those schools listed have been more successful than LSU the last 20 years. BTW, I do realize LSU made it to the F4 in 2006, and yea WW had a few good years. He did get clipped for being an idiot on the phone and was caught. The problem with the basketball program, is there are people in place outside the building who are in charge, and are constantly in the ear of money folks. Those individuals need to take a hike. Arkansas surely did, and look who is the HC is. I am telling everyone Brad Stevens will be available after this NBA season. That is all
Posted on 1/5/26 at 10:54 am to In The Know
The team played solid. Although not handling the press was embarrassing. But in the end it was players making dumb mistakes at the end and not coaching.
Why did Nwoko back off Agee under the basket and not contest his layup. It was really weird how he turned him loose under the goal. Then Reece lob at the end was terrible. Those 2 plays really hurt and that was just bone headed decisions by players.
Thonly coaching fault i saw was breaking the press.
Why did Nwoko back off Agee under the basket and not contest his layup. It was really weird how he turned him loose under the goal. Then Reece lob at the end was terrible. Those 2 plays really hurt and that was just bone headed decisions by players.
Thonly coaching fault i saw was breaking the press.
Posted on 1/5/26 at 12:30 pm to ChestRockwell
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All of those schools listed have been more successful than LSU the last 20 years
Texas Tech went to two NCAA Tournaments between 2007 and 2016. Then they hit on the right coach (Beard) and suddenly they are making the NCAAT each season and even reaching the National Championship game.
Alabama was no better program than LSU prior to Oats. In fact, it was worse. Now they are a perennial NCAA Tournament contender. That's not because they all of a sudden decided to become very interested in basketball. Its' because they landed the right coach.
Iowa St was a below .500 program for 4 years under Greg McDermott...whose turned out to be a damn good HC at Creighton. They bounced back under Hoiberg then sunk to lows under Phrom before now hitting great highs under Otzelberger Is that because they had intermittent bouts of "taking basketball seriously"? Or was it because coaching matters!
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The problem with the basketball program, is there are people in place outside the building who are in charge, and are constantly in the ear of money folks.
That narrative stopped being relevant over a decade ago after Jones was fired. Dale Brown is 90 years old and hasn't coached at LSU in 30 years. And despite being a member of the BOS, Collis doesn't have much influence on the basketball program anymore because recruiting had moved well beyond local AAU affiliates.
Wade was not a "good ole boy" hire. He was preferred choice of a former assistant AD who played and coached for Billy Donovan at Florida. McMahon was a typical Woodward hire where he just looked at the resume and made the hire without further analysis of if he would be a guy capable to understanding the LSU job in the NIL era. He hasn't. The only reason McMahon is still the HC is because Tate/Woodward didn't want to deal with a push to bring Wade back to LSU. They are now gone.
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I am telling everyone Brad Stevens will be available after this NBA season. That is all
John Gruden will be the coach at LSU next year too.
But even if you are right, do you think LSU would wait until May (perhaps longer) to hire a HC?
Posted on 1/5/26 at 12:34 pm to Tammany Tom
quote:There was a reason he was signing high end talent, to be fair. Now that NIL is legal, I'm not sure if Wade would be better or worse than before as far as signing players.
No one really knew who Wade was at the time, but after he was hired, he proved everyone who said you couldn’t recruit high end talent to lsu wrong.
Posted on 1/5/26 at 12:56 pm to thunderbird1100
The next 3 home games are must wins.
They have to beat USC, UK, and Mizzou in the PMAC. Those are winnable games. I don't see how they make the tournament based on the schedule if you can't get 3 wins there
They have to beat USC, UK, and Mizzou in the PMAC. Those are winnable games. I don't see how they make the tournament based on the schedule if you can't get 3 wins there
Posted on 1/5/26 at 12:57 pm to jp4lsu
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Although not handling the press was embarrassing. But in the end it was players making dumb mistakes at the end and not coaching.
Yeah, I have not seen A&M play this year, but I have to think that back court pressure is something that they do a lot and that we practiced against it, so even though Thomas was not playing I do agree that was disappointing. We kept passing the ball right where they wanted us to and made us very easy to trap.
Reece had 3 critical turnovers late, two as a direct result of this, but one was just a bad decision to throw the alley oop to Nwoko, I doubt very seriously that was called in the huddle.
But he'll be better for the experience, and we'll need him being as Thomas will be out at least a game or two more. I like his upside.
Posted on 1/5/26 at 1:02 pm to HurricaneCamille
quote:There it is, right off the bat. (A defiant statement of mediocrity acceptance from one of those MA things)
But who can do better?
Just off the top of my head, without even thinking about it, a few coaches that could do better are Will Wade, Chris Beard, Brad Stevens and Scott Drew.
Hey, here's a thought. Contact Tony Bennett and see if he wants back in. Some coaches get bored and miss the game after they retire. He'd be my first call when the season gets to the "Firing is Enevitable" stage with McHallman.
NO MORE EXCUSES in Year 4. (Injuries or anything else) By Year 4, depth and everything else should be in place!
Posted on 1/5/26 at 1:34 pm to The Mick
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There was a reason he was signing high end talent, to be fair. Now that NIL is legal, I'm not sure if Wade would be better or worse than before as far as signing players.
Blue chip HS players were getting paid BEFORE NIL. It just wasn't out in the open. It wasn't like LSU was paying big money and the likes of Kansas, Kentucky, UNC, Arizona, Auburn, UCLA (schools he beat out for talent) weren't. Wade is a good recruiter in his own right and he's also good at shaking the "money tree" (donors). That's how he got the money to make the "strong arse offers" in the first place.
At NC St. he signed the 14th ranked transfer class ahead of this season so it seems likely he could continue to compete in that space. Remember, his first offseason at LSU was just piecing things together + Waters. It was year two where things took off.
Posted on 1/5/26 at 1:37 pm to Alt26
I love that people just conveniently forgot Dawkins pay sheet which had Jarell Martin and Tim Quarterman on it. It’s like fans pick and choose which media smear pieces to take from and which to ignore plus of course nobody ever mentions the actual findings or violations because those didn’t matchup to the narrative.
This post was edited on 1/5/26 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 1/5/26 at 1:41 pm to semjase
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Hey, here's a thought. Contact Tony Bennett and see if he wants back in. Some coaches get bored and miss the game after they retire. He'd be my first call when the season gets to the "Firing is Enevitable" stage with McHallman.
Bennett retired because he did not enjoy coaching in the NIL/transfer era. Many of the guys who have left because of that reason haven't jumped back in because things haven't changed there. It's only gotten worse. You literally have former 1st round NBA draft picks joining college teams...midseason.
Sure, LSU can ask. But Bennett seems to be a pretty self-aware guy and recognized he's not cut out for this environment.
Posted on 1/5/26 at 1:50 pm to Alt26
Yep those guys aren’t coming back but there are plenty of good college basketball coaches out there. Would any of our fans have been buzzing about Ben McCollum or Darian DeVries or Dusty May? Or course not, 99% of them never heard of those guys. Unless you’re a big name at a big school our fans don’t know about them so of course posters are gonna say “there’s nobody out there who’ll come”
Posted on 1/5/26 at 2:11 pm to ChestRockwell
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The difference is all those schools take basketball seriously. Lsu hasn't in 20 years. Nice try
The fact that you added “nice try” at the end of this post as if you just made some triumphant and irrefutable point, while being wildly incorrect the entire time, is just peak
Posted on 1/5/26 at 2:13 pm to ChestRockwell
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All of those schools listed have been more successful than LSU the last 20 years. BTW, I do realize LSU made it to the F4 in 2006, and yea WW had a few good years. He did get clipped for being an idiot on the phone and was caught. The problem with the basketball program, is there are people in place outside the building who are in charge, and are constantly in the ear of money folks. Those individuals need to take a hike. Arkansas surely did, and look who is the HC is. I am telling everyone Brad Stevens will be available after this NBA season. That is all
Oh, now I see the level of intelligence we’re working with here.
Posted on 1/5/26 at 2:14 pm to Open Your Eyes
That’s what I’m talking about. Total ignorance
Posted on 1/5/26 at 2:27 pm to In The Know
The sooner he’s fired the better so this dark cloud over the program can be lifted.
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