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Posted on 12/9/25 at 7:13 pm to
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 12/9/25 at 7:13 pm to
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Obviously you don’t know anything about basketball, or you don’t know what “good” really looks like….so I won’t give this another thought
His ilk don’t live in reality. What a normal person sees and acknowledges, they see some alternate universe version that makes complete sense to them.

I’ve said this often recently, they already have a conclusion, now their job is to reach and stretch and use any tactic to reach that conclusion. Reality doesn’t fit their conclusion, so it’s ignored. Cherry picking a play or stat or two, is the play.

It’s pretty ridiculous overall and defies all known logical reasoning.
Posted by JWill409
Beaumont, TX
Member since Sep 2010
1470 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 7:51 pm to
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Has nothing to do with the comments but nice deflection attempt


How could I deflect something that I don’t know what you’re referring to based on that comment you made? So you’re saying what I said was accurate?

You people LIVE and DIE on NET and KenPom all year. They got as high as #19(?) Now all of the sudden they’re not good and this is the same old McMahon team. Well, what is it? Are they really that bad, or are the metrics flawed as I’ve been saying for a long time? Can’t have both.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
10586 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 7:58 pm to
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You people LIVE and DIE on NET and KenPom all year. They got as high as #19(?) Now all of the sudden they’re not good and this is the same old McMahon team. Well, what is it? Are they really that bad, or are the metrics flawed as I’ve been saying for a long time? Can’t have both.

I find it very unlikely that Jay wright attempted to give a shite about NET in December.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
46681 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 8:07 pm to
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I find it very unlikely that Jay wright attempted to give a shite about NET in December.
Kenpom has proven to be a highly accurate predictive model with enough data. His model usually starts to hit stride in late January. It’s also highly regarded in CBB circles.

But we have posters that saw one play a few weeks ago and made a total judgment on the quality of the team. I kid you not. One play is all the data he needed. I didn’t actually realize how bad our education system is in teaching basic logic and analytical concepts until I got deep into discussing LSU MBB on TD years ago. I had assumed people had at least fundamental knowledge of critical thought. Nope. My bad.
Posted by pitchandcatch27
Huntsville,AL
Member since Jul 2018
4264 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 8:23 pm to
Turn the page..
Posted by alessic7
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2018
2491 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 8:25 pm to
I'm not gonna make an excuse for McMahon but for the team in general, I sank on em mentally soon as I heard Reed was out for season. Dude is physically imposing and was going to be counted on in late game situations. Brutal loss. Again.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
68047 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 8:38 pm to
Another non sequitur and you added a false claim as a cherry on top.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37260 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 8:48 pm to
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Hahahahahahahaha….you might be the biggest idiot on this board if you truly believe what you posted.
Hey, if you want to believe that LSU didn't get good shots on Sunday, I don't know what to tell you.

If that is your argument, I am sure other haters who didn't watch the game will support you.
This post was edited on 12/9/25 at 8:50 pm
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
10840 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 8:53 pm to
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Name one major school who has a top mens basketball, football, and baseball program all at the same time? There isnt one. Its not economically feasible.


Tennessee. Made playoffs in football, Elite 8 basketball, Baseball Supers

Alabama- will be ranked in all 3 major sports

Ole Miss-- Made post season in baseball last year, made March Madness, have been performing better than us in football

Texas- Made post season in all 3 sports last year

Florida- last year was equivalent with us in football, won bball natty, made post season baseball

We aren't asking to be national title contenders in basketball. We are asking to be a team that can make the tournament as a 4-10 seed every 3 out of 4 years, with a chance if you get the right draw to make a run
Posted by PurpleSingularity
Member since Dec 2017
2755 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 9:17 pm to
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Hey, if you want to believe that LSU didn't get good shots on Sunday, I don't know what to tell you. If that is your argument, I am sure other haters who didn't watch the game will support you.


Pulling up for a 3-pointer, 5 seconds into the shot clock is not a good shot unless you are an elite shooter…none of those exist at LSU….instead you should rely on ball rotation, back door cuts, etc….this team drives into double teams, doesn’t make the other team work on defense, etc….its so easy to see….don’t get me started on how passive their defense is, especially in the paint….double teams are passive and they don’t body up….just a terribly coached team and his record at LSU objectively proves it…

This team will struggle in SEC play again, even though they are more talented than last year and the SEC is less talented….its so easy to pick apart what they do poorly
Posted by Circle K Beggar
Somewhere in the lower 48
Member since Feb 2011
8211 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 9:34 pm to
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I sank on em mentally soon as I heard Reed was out for season. Dude is physically imposing and was going to be counted on in late game situations. Brutal loss. Again.


Not to take away from Reed’s abilities, but isn’t this just another lazy excuse? All offseason we heard about the “increased investment” and that we now “have guys”. Ok well it’s time to put up.

You have to have answers in this sport.. At what point does it just become talk? All teams deal with injuries.
This post was edited on 12/9/25 at 9:35 pm
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37260 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 9:41 pm to
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Pulling up for a 3-pointer, 5 seconds into the shot clock is not a good shot unless you are an elite shooter…
If you are open it is. Not that i remember one of those. Unless you are talking about off an offensive rebounds, which is a great time to take that shot.

We have several shooting guards who are above average 3 point shooters. The silver lining in Max's bad game is that he will have a short leash that could give Zipper more opportunities, which would give CMM 4 options to go to at the 3 and 4.

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this team drives into double teams, doesn’t make the other team work on defense, etc
Seems, I don't see that. Dedan gets doubled, but he can pass or dribble out of it.

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don’t get me started on how passive their defense is, especially in the paint….double teams are passive and they don’t body up
They mostly play a man defense. How on Earth is that passive? They don't have the personnel to double everyone, because a smaller team will get them on rotations. Defense really hasn't been a problem. Tech just was unconscious in the 1st half, but we did leave them open at times. We did a good job defending inside. Offense has to do better than 26 in a half.
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This team will struggle in SEC play again, even though they are more talented than last year and the SEC is less talented
Too early to say that. We will know more on Saturday.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
68047 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 9:45 pm to
You see what he’s doing right? It’s the players fault and in a couple weeks we’ll be back to “muh no talent”. They’ll never stop making excuses
This post was edited on 12/9/25 at 9:46 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
68047 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 9:47 pm to
Reed goes from mostly off the bench role player to lottery pick when he’s hurt according to the mcmen. They do this with any player who misses time, that player becomes the star player we need. Just another excuse.
This post was edited on 12/9/25 at 9:49 pm
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37260 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 11:16 pm to
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You see what he’s doing right? It’s the players fault and in a couple weeks we’ll be back to “muh no talent”. They’ll never stop making excuses
I will go on record right now that we have talent, even with Reed out. Now if Nwoko, Dedan, and Miller go out I will have a case, but right now, talent isn't an excuse.
Posted by Imber
Member since Sep 2017
18238 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 11:21 pm to
We might as well just keep him. LSU is bound and determined to be the cucks of SEC MBB.
Posted by ChestRockwell
In the heart of horse country
Member since Jul 2021
7378 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 8:33 am to
I am referring to winning titles or going to CG. Not being ranked.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
34995 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 8:53 am to
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I am referring to winning titles or going to CG. Not being ranked


My goodness. That is quite a high bar


In 2019

LSU basketball won the SEC and was a #3 seed in the NCAAT
LSU baseball made it to a Super Regional
LSU football won the National Championship

Does that fit the criteria of all three sports being great?

Money matters. Now more than ever. No one is going to deny that. But coaching matters...maybe even more. Particularly in basketball. Get the right HC and your fortunes quickly change.

Alabama was a juggernaut in football from 2008 - 2023 (maybe they still are). For much of that period they were, at best, mediocre in basketball. Probably, on the whole, worse than LSU (or at least not significantly better). Then they hire a guy named Oats. Within two years they are one of the top programs in the country. Is that because Alabama suddenly started dumping piles of money into the basketball program at a FAR greater amount than it ever did before? Or is it because they found a pretty damn good coach?

LSU's basketball problem isn't a money problem. It's a McMahon problem. (But I'm certainly open to McMahon proving that statement wrong this year)
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
68047 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 9:35 am to
Nobody does it but I keep telling posters to go look at the Tennessee program just prior to Bruce Pearl. They had a coach named Buzz Peterson, he was McMahon’s coach at Ap State and his mentor after college. We look exactly like those Tennessee teams. Buzz was never successful in the SEC and he was fired after 4 years. Pearl got them a national 2 seed the very next season.
This post was edited on 12/10/25 at 9:36 am
Posted by ChestRockwell
In the heart of horse country
Member since Jul 2021
7378 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 10:33 am to
So McMahon is out there missing shots? Gotcha. WE
DONT HAVE GOOD ENOUGH PLAYERS. Again, LSU isn't putting an emphasis on winning basketball games. Look how much $ Kentucky spent in the NIL. They couldn't hit the side of a barn door. You watched the game the other night vs Gonzaga? 16-60 from the field. Coaching doesn't throw up bricks.
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