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re: NIL money, not McMahon, the problem with men's basketball
Posted on 3/28/25 at 9:33 am to chinhoyang
Posted on 3/28/25 at 9:33 am to chinhoyang
quote:
Let's see what Coach McMahon can do now that he has a reasonable amount of money to use in securing players
McMahon had the number 17 and 14 recruiting classes 2 of the last 3 years, with current NIL support. Why didn't McMahon do a better job then?
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Posted on 3/28/25 at 9:35 am to chinhoyang
Posted on 3/28/25 at 9:50 am to chinhoyang
Well you’re pretty delusional then. He will prove that theory wrong next year and be fired after the season!!
Posted on 3/28/25 at 9:52 am to Riverside
So I just looked... (via 247 sports)
They had the 14th ranked HS class. (5th in SEC)
They had the 65th ranked transfer class. (14th in SEC) The only two schools below us? South Carolina and Oklahoma.
Overall, they had the 6th best class in the SEC. It's clear he has to use the portal more effectively. Maybe he does have more money to work with now, but who knows.
Either he will do well and make the tournament, or we will be looking for a new coach.
They had the 14th ranked HS class. (5th in SEC)
They had the 65th ranked transfer class. (14th in SEC) The only two schools below us? South Carolina and Oklahoma.
Overall, they had the 6th best class in the SEC. It's clear he has to use the portal more effectively. Maybe he does have more money to work with now, but who knows.
Either he will do well and make the tournament, or we will be looking for a new coach.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 9:54 am to chinhoyang
You have the mentality of a middle schooler.
It does not surprise me IN THE LEAST that you buy the bullshite narrative that McMahon didn't have money.
He had at least middle of the SEC pack money. I don't care what the company line put out by our administration through the media tries to sell anyone. McMahon couldn't have signed several top 20 classes without MONEY!!! Bailey who is absolute garbage was paid $450k last year.
In addition ching chong, even if he was saddled with no money (and he wasn't), if McMahon was a good coach you would have still seen consistent flashes of success, and an upset or three.
NONE OF THAT with this loser!!! And watch what Wade does in the ACC jackass. It'll be the exact opposite of what we have here.
Now here's another statement, and one you will absolutely love: The most impressive feat that McMahon has accomplished at LSU is to make your boyfriend Johnny Jones look like a Hall of Fame coach in comparison.
You really are an unbelievably simple minded person (based on your years of post history), and I am mystified how you actually navigate life with any success at all.
It does not surprise me IN THE LEAST that you buy the bullshite narrative that McMahon didn't have money.
He had at least middle of the SEC pack money. I don't care what the company line put out by our administration through the media tries to sell anyone. McMahon couldn't have signed several top 20 classes without MONEY!!! Bailey who is absolute garbage was paid $450k last year.
In addition ching chong, even if he was saddled with no money (and he wasn't), if McMahon was a good coach you would have still seen consistent flashes of success, and an upset or three.
NONE OF THAT with this loser!!! And watch what Wade does in the ACC jackass. It'll be the exact opposite of what we have here.
Now here's another statement, and one you will absolutely love: The most impressive feat that McMahon has accomplished at LSU is to make your boyfriend Johnny Jones look like a Hall of Fame coach in comparison.
You really are an unbelievably simple minded person (based on your years of post history), and I am mystified how you actually navigate life with any success at all.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 10:02 am to LSUButt
I hear you, but the WORST thing that can actually happen with McMahon next year is that we sneak into the First Four of the tournament get hammered, and the morons on this board think we have arrived.
This pathetic excuse for a coach either needs to have a solid or better season with a tournament bid AND a win or two to make me or any reasonable fan believe he can be a good coach here, or he needs to repeat or do worse than this past year so it's clear to remove his arse (like Stevie Wonder can't see that shite now after three years of this travesty).
This pathetic excuse for a coach either needs to have a solid or better season with a tournament bid AND a win or two to make me or any reasonable fan believe he can be a good coach here, or he needs to repeat or do worse than this past year so it's clear to remove his arse (like Stevie Wonder can't see that shite now after three years of this travesty).
Posted on 3/28/25 at 10:08 am to chinhoyang
Whatever you say Mascona
Posted on 3/28/25 at 10:10 am to MS_Tigers07
quote:
Overall, they had the 6th best class in the SEC. It's clear he has to use the portal more effectively. Maybe he does have more money to work with now, but who knows.
What McMahon is saying, without saying, in his statement that he "now understands the importance of the transfer portal" is that his approach for the last 3 years was to allocate a big portion of the funds towards HS recruiting with the plan to build a roster by stacking HS signing classes year or year. He now accepts that isn't a path to success anymore. Primarily because (1) most HS signees don't stay at a place for more than 2 years and (2) you can't account for the experience transfers bring to the table.
That said, unless something changes, LSU's transfer capacity for next year is relatively limited. There are only 4 open spots if no more players enter the portal. As of now, the roster will be:
3 True Freshmen
4 Sophomores
2 Seniors/5th year players (Reed and Collins)
4 open spots
Posted on 3/28/25 at 10:14 am to chinhoyang
Who believes in him to give them money?
Posted on 3/28/25 at 10:17 am to tigahlovah
quote:
I hear you, but the WORST thing that can actually happen with McMahon next year is that we sneak into the First Four of the tournament get hammered, and the morons on this board think we have arrived.
I agree 1000%
The expectations of the program shouldn't be lowered simply because the expectations for McMahon are incredibly low. Texas just fired a HC, who made the NCAAT 3 straight seasons, for a record/postseason appearance I think many fans on this board would be thrilled with if LSU achieved it next year.
There is NO reason LSU can't build their way to where Alabama, Florida, Tennessee, Auburn are now. NONE! That should be the ultimate goal for the program. It takes finding the right coach to make that happen. Being happy with barely making the NCAA Tournament and quickly getting bounced should not be viewed as "good enough"...even if it would be "good" for McMahon.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 10:20 am to Alt26
quote:
There is NO reason LSU can't build their way to where Alabama, Florida, Tennessee, Auburn are now.
Until we commit to basketball like they do, we will continue to have the same results. It also helps they all have top 10 coaches in the game.
Can we go steal BYU’s coach? They’re at least fun to watch.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 10:26 am to chinhoyang
You are wrong Scott.
McMahon was a terrible hire. You should feel bad. Probably should put down the fork as well
McMahon was a terrible hire. You should feel bad. Probably should put down the fork as well
Posted on 3/28/25 at 10:30 am to LSUButt
quote:Your second statement seems more likely now.
The problem is McMahon has recruited HSers and college basketball is about Senior transfers. VJ Miller is going to be an electric player in 3 years...right now he is a high volume shooter that makes Freshman mistakes. You obviously want to keep him because he is an awesome talent, but even next year, if you plan on being good and not just barely squeak into the NCAAT, VJ Miller should be a guy off the bench like Terry Martin used to be
I could see V Miller transferring to a small school and scoring 20 a game then go back to a P4 school for JR and SR year and we watch him drop 25 in a Sweet 16 game
Posted on 3/28/25 at 10:32 am to tigahlovah
I think LSU has to be at least mid pack of the SEC next year. A 6-12/7-11 sec record then losing the 11 seed game SHOULD get him canned
But we are dealing with Woodward here…
But we are dealing with Woodward here…
Posted on 3/28/25 at 10:35 am to LSUButt
quote:
A 6-12/7-11 sec record
They would definitely keep him if he pulls one of these off. I am assuming as long as he is in Next four outish territory they will run it back as "His best season yet"
Posted on 3/28/25 at 10:35 am to chinhoyang
Posted on 3/28/25 at 11:25 am to rented mule
quote:
McMahon had the number 17 and 14 recruiting classes 2 of the last 3 years, with current NIL support. Why didn't McMahon do a better job then?
You have too much faith in the "rankings."
Posted on 3/28/25 at 11:30 am to chinhoyang
quote:Now it's the rankings fault.
McMahon had the number 17 and 14 recruiting classes 2 of the last 3 years, with current NIL support. Why didn't McMahon do a better job then?quote:
You have too much faith in the "rankings."
CoachMc still recruited and signed them. If he was signing the 364th ranked recruiting class, but identifying talent and coaching them well, no one would care about a ranking.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 11:31 am to MS_Tigers07
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Until we commit to basketball like they do, we will continue to have the same results.
The "commitment" wasn't there at first. They found the right guy...who secured the commitment. It wasn't that long ago LSU had, at least decent, "commitment" too. At least from an NIL front (even though it wasn't called "NIL"). The right HC will generate it. This isn't like the Kardashian sisters where if you throw enough money at an ugly duckling you can turn her into a swan. Money is not going to overcome poor coaching/leadership.
Get the right guy and, like magic, you'll see the "commitment" (on the NIL side) follow.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 2:07 pm to chinhoyang
How's NIL working for McNeese?
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